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[arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment



On 10/7/10 3:00 PM, "Kevin Kargel" <kkargel at polartel.com> wrote:

> Agreed --  assignment is not deployment.
> 
> What I do think about preemptive assignment is that there are quite a few
> netadmins who would experiment with something they happen to already have and
> are just not motivated to jump through the hoops to get an allocation.



Maybe we could consider auto assignments to all new applicants for ASN's as
well?


Best,

-M<




> 
> Premptive allocation that would put IPv6 blocks in the hands of netadmins
> without the need to do paperwork or argue through the bureaucracy for
> authorization would IMHO further IPv6 adoption.
> 
> Kevin
> 
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Heather Schiller
>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:41 PM
>> To: William Herrin
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment
>> 
>> Obtaining v6 address space is not the problem, deployment is.  Giving
>> people IPv6 space is *not* the same thing as deployment.  If getting
>> space is the problem, that should be addressed in policy.  Unlike a
>> couple of years ago, we aren't hearing a cacophony of folks who can
>> not get an IPv6 prefix.  It's likely that most people who want space
>> can get it, more importantly they can get it in a timely manner that
>> would not interfere with their deployment plans.   Massively assigning
>> space doesn't come with a person to design your addressing plan,
>> updated software tools to support and configure, or turn v6 on your
>> routers.
>> 
>> In fact, I would argue against forced assignment - because monitoring
>> number of requests from the RIR may be a useful measure of potential
>> v6 adoption - if nothing else, it's an indication of the number of
>> organizations who have given it enough consideration to request a
>> prefix.  By letting folks request v6 on their own, you have a handy
>> list of folks who need outreach.
>> 
>> --Heather
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:46 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> Over the course of the week I've had the opportunity to talk to a
>>> number of wonderful folks in the operator community here at the
>>> meeting in Atlanta. As expected we often talked of IPv6 and in some
>>> cases the conversation wandered to a question that has puzzled me for
>>> some time:
>>> 
>>> "Why not look in the BGP table, take every announced ARIN AS number
>>> and preemptively assign IPv6 addresses to each associated organization
>>> that doesn't already have them? Not forever of course... give it three
>>> years and then the assignments evaporate unless claimed by signing an
>>> RSA and paying the annual fees."
>>> 
>>> When I posed this question the responses were largely variants on,
>>> "That would make too much sense."
>>> 
>>> So I put it to the list. Have we some stick rammed far enough up our
>>> collective backside that we're willing to tell people: you MUST deploy
>>> IPv6, it alone will save the Internet's soul. And oh by the way you
>>> need our permission to start for real. So fill out the form, make your
>>> checks payable and we'll get back to you.
>>> 
>>> For your consideration,
>>> Bill Herrin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
>>> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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