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[arin-ppml] Comcast

On 11/9/2010 5:56 AM, Heather Schiller wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt<tedm at ipinc.net>  wrote:
>> On 11/8/2010 8:19 PM, Heather Schiller wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt<tedm at ipinc.net>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2010 6:26 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In message<206001cb7f91$64b8f6e0$2e2ae4a0$@com>,
>>>>> "Warren Johnson"<warren at wholesaleinternet.com>      wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I simply think it is intriguing that a large evangelist and proponent
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> ipv6 adoption required a gigantic allocation.  It demonstrates the
>>>>>> complexity of the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious... Who is the official keeper of the IPv4 doomsday clock,
>>>>> and how much closer to midnite does this allocation put us?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's a catch-22.  You cannot runout of IPv4 unless you get the Internet
>>>> very popular but it's the popularity of the Internet that forces you to
>>>> runout of IPv4.
>>>>
>>>> I frankly am much more interested in what the percentage of that 8
>>>> million IPs is free Legacy space and what percentage are they paying
>>>> ARIN for?
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Huh?  They got the /9 on 10/21/2010 - which means none of it is
>>> legacy and they are paying for all of it.  ...they were probably
>>> already billing as an XL ($18k/yr) so it isn't costing them anything
>>> extra.
>>>
>>> No magic here.. anyone can look at the allocation, allocation dates
>>> and the resources held under an org id:
>>>
>>> The allocation:
>>> http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CCCH-3.html
>>>
>>> Resources held under that org-id (including a /13, which would have
>>> put them into the XL category prior to the /9 being allocated)
>>> http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CCCH-3/nets
>>>
>>
>> Interesting, I didn't realize that they had all of their allocation
>> under a single /9
>>
>
> /sigh
>
>   They don't have *all of their allocation under a single /9*
>

I knew that,  I was being sarcastic, the thread was just too tempting to 
NOT make smart-ass responses to.  I'll admit it I'm a smart-ass,
always have been, and it's just impossible to resist when something
like that thread comes along which is just begging for it.  And the
original poster worded his post exactly so that it could be read
either that comcast got an additional /9 or comcast had a total of /9.
Such a lead in only comes around once in a great while.  Sigh.

Ted


> Really.. just click the link (I promise it's SFW, no dancing bears, no
> exploding malware) http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CCCH-3/nets    It
> takes you to ARIN's website and shows you a listing of everything
> under that Comcast account.  Which includes the /9, *and* a bunch of
> other space.  They probably don't even have all their allocations
> under a single org id... lots of companies don't.
>
> PPML is for discussion of policy proposals, not for conjecture or fud
> about allocations ARIN has made.
>
>
>> Obviously Comcast would have never qualified for a /9 when they were
>> first getting started.  So they must have renumbered dozens of times
>> as they got larger and worked their way up in size, qualifying for
>> larger and larger allocations.
>>
>> It must have been holy hell on their customers to have to go through
>> all that renumbering, though.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ted
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