[arin-ppml] Demand for community networking

[Andrew Dul]

For those community networks out there.  I'd like to understand why "community networks" cannot receive IPv6 allocations or assignments under the current policy.  During these discussions I have found there to be a very loose linkage for why a community network cannot qualify for a allocation/assignment under existing policy.  

The issue of cost here should be considered separately.

Andrew

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Martin Hannigan <martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs>
>  Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Demand for community networking
>  Sent: 29 Apr '09 08:11
>  
>  Does anyone have a list of community networks that are interested in
>  this policy? I'd like to take a look and see if I can make an actual
>  case for this policy. I thought that the slides that we saw yesterday
>  didn't really do it. I think that there's a need based on extensions
>  of the network and utilizations like UUCP and store and forward
>  applications, but if noone is actually asking for that maybe we should
>  abandon this policy after all.
>  
>  Best,
>  
>  Martin
>  
>  
>  On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
>  >> - Would it really be a great idea to have something like several 1000
>  >>   individual IPv6 allocations to build the new global ATM on, if we
>  >>   include 200 nations, 500+ aircraft operating entities, a 1000 or so
>  >>   airports, plus aviation service providers of various types around
>  >>   the globe?  To me, that would be a nightmare scenario to try to
>  >>   design and secure a network to support any critical infrastructure.
>  >>>
>  >>>> Also for future thoughts in IPv6 space specifically, the need for
>  >>>> permanent contiguous address spaces exist for other large
>  >>>> organizations
>  >>>
>  >>> really?  please explain the contiguous issue.  because, when coupled
>  >>> with large, it becomes "we'll need X 20 years out, and since it needs to
>  >>> be contiguous, we need X now."  they and their upstreams don't plan to
>  >>> have bgp speaking routers?
>  >
>  > thanks for showing my guess to be true.
>  >
>  > you big important organizations definitely deserve a bunch of whatever
>  > we think of as class A allocations in ipv6.
>  >
>  > have we seen this movie before?  i think the popcorn got stale rather
>  > quickly.
>  >
>  > randy
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