[arin-ppml] Legacy Space authority (fwd)
Dean Anderson
dean at av8.net
Sat May 3 13:27:10 EDT 2008
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On Fri, 2 May 2008, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Fri, May 02, 2008 at 05:44:11PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: > > Legacy's got their space from the government. So did the RIRs. Those > > blocks are intangible property, just exactly like domain names. > > There was a time when you could get a domain name by sending off > an e-mail, much like early legacy assignments. Somewhere along the > line a contract was imposed, fees were established, and a UDRP was > created. As far as I know unless you agreed and started to pay the > fees your domain name was dropped from the system. > > If Legacy blocks are "just exactly like domain names" then I would > assume you feel the same could happen with legacy blocks. A contract > could be imposed, fees established, and a dispute procedure created. I think that every legacy would agree to pay a small fee for the record services, especially when changes are made to the records. The local county registrar of deeds also charges fees to change the records on titles. I don't think anyone has ever had any objection to that. But this isn't about money. BTW, ARIN is asking in the Legacy RSA to pay $100 per year. This is a trivial amount, but still several times what people pay for domain names, which consume exactly the same effort by the registry maintaining the records. The objection is to the coercion on the improper threat of withholding infrastructure services and the improper transfer of ownership interest. The object of the coercion is not money or fair fees, but rather the transfer of legacy ownership interest in that IP Address space to ARIN; perhaps so that ARIN can give it to their NANOG pals in just 2 hours. ARIN has sent 22 employees over 100 times to NANOG, up to NANOG 41. What are the consequences of sending 22 employees, whose jobs have nothing to with network operations, to NANOG over 100 times? (including the ARIN executive secretary) One consequence is that about $50,000 of ARIN funds is transferred to NANOG, in addition to the $50,000 per year authorized by the (conflicted) ARIN Board of Directors. NANOG is a very small group of a couple hundred core members, and ARIN is paying a third or more of its annual budget. Yet, somehow NANOG members have taken control of all the ARIN directors slots with only about 2% of the membership voting for any Board Member. Those board members have been improperly using that influence to send large amounts of ARIN's money to NANOG. And they have also improperly silenced dissent by interfering with membership rights in ARIN. It seems unlikely that an ARIN Board that wasn't controlled by NANOG members would engage in activities that about 80% the ARIN membership don't engage in. Another consequence is that the ARIN employees make personal relationships that can be exploited to make resource assignments unfairly and unethically. At the last NANOG meeting (42), Sue Dobert, Erika Goedrich, and Mark Kosters attended from ARIN. Sue Dobert is a resource analyst who shouldn't have personal relationships with the persons applying for IP Address Space. Her job has nothing to do with actual network operations. She doesn't need to know how to configure BGP. Resource analysts make resource allocation decisions based on ARIN policy rules, and should be barred from attending such events because they create personal relations with ethical conflicts. NANOG is a junket for Erika Goedrich, membership coordinator: NANOG widely advertises and exploits its association with ARIN. One wonders just how many ARIN members were signed up, since it seems that nearly all the NANOG members are already voting for ARIN Board Members. NANOG is a junket for Mark Kosters, unless he was speaking, which according to the agenda, he wasn't. All 6 board members have conflicts of interest with NANOG; Even Scott Bradner, whom I previously had a great deal of respect for, hasn't responded to a question about whether he has was compensated in any way for his 3 speaking engagements at NANOG and whether or not he has a conflict of interest. Incidentally, the people that are making the attacks on me, on legacy space, and on the opposition to the Legacy RSA are also associated with NANOG, rather than a representative sample of the ARIN membership. The vast majority of ARIN members don't participate in NANOG. To be clear, I've got no problem with sending speakers to NANOG, or anywhere that pays ARIN for the speaker to come. I do have a problem with the overly cozy breaking down of ethical barriers, particularly with an organization that doesn't repudiate thugish threats of violence. I've got a issue with NANOG (a small group of a couple hundred core people) taking control of ARIN in dubious elections, and then taking large amounts of ARIN money, then creating unethical conditions for resource allocations, and then trying to take control of Legacy IP Address space by improper threats. --Dean -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000
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