[arin-ppml] 134.17.0.0/16
joe mcguckin
joe at via.net
Thu May 1 16:43:52 EDT 2008
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As the holder of legacy space, I'm willing to pay the $100/yr maintenence fee. It seems reasonable. I do object to the RSA which attempts to impose more restrictions on the space that what I originally agreed to. Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications joe at via.net 650-207-0372 cell 650-213-1302 office 650-969-2124 fax On May 1, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > Thus spake "Danny McPherson" <danny at tcb.net> >> Finally, in reviewing this the other day, I did find the text >> under Q2 here: >> >> <http://www.arin.net/registration/agreements/legacy_rsa_faq.html> >> >> "The fees charged are intended to maintain accurate account >> records, to prevent hijacking or unforward events, not burden >> the Legacy address holder" somewhat ambiguous, and well >> in need of some clarifying text - for obvious reasons. > > Could you expand on what you'd like to see instead? > > The Q&A makes it very clear what the purpose of the LRSA is. A2 in > particular makes it clear what the purpose of the fees are: to pay for > maintaining accurate account records. That's why they're called > "maintenance" fees. > > Non-RSA'd legacy space is easy to hijack because ARIN has no clear > records > or business relationship with the entity that supposedly controls > it, so > they have a difficult time proving that an entity trying to transfer > that > space to another party either is or is not the original legacy > registrant. > Trying to clean and maintain those records costs staff time, i.e. > money. > The maintenance fees pay for that. The fees also have a beneficial > side > effect of keeping the information current, since the billing process > itself > requires annual contact may prompt records changes, as the > organization > itself changes, that would otherwise be lost over time if there were > no > regular contact. > > Keep in mind that _over half_ of legacy records haven't been touched > by > their registrants since ARIN was formed over ten years ago. It's > highly > likely that most of those records are grossly incorrect due to M&A > activity, > bankrupcies, name changes, etc. The contact information is almost > certainly > incorrect. How is ARIN supposed to know if someone claiming to > represent an > organization that received its space 10-25 years ago is really the > same > entity? If you're one of those orgs, isn't it worth $100/yr to make > sure > nobody can hijack your (coveted) legacy space and get it marked as a > spam > haven? > > S > > Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein > CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the > K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the > ARIN Public Policy > Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact the ARIN Member Services Help Desk at info at arin.net > if you experience any issues.
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