[ppml] NANOG IPv4 Exhaustion BoF

On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:01 PM, David Conrad wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> Leo Bicknell made the point that without this policy or something
>
>> like it, the world becomes set in stone after IPv4 runout.  Haves
>> have and have nots have not and there's no way for that to change.
>
>
> To be blunt, this strikes me as astoundingly hallucinatory.
>
> Without some form of transfer policy, ARIN simply becomes irrelevant  
> as address consumers go to the "black" market in order to meet their  
> requirements.
>
> With a transfer policy, ARIN _may_ retain some relevance as a source  
> of "title" information, but a lot depends on the restrictions ARIN  
> attempts to impose.  Make the policy too restrictive, and people  
> will go elsewhere.
>
> In the end, with or without a transfer policy, you're still out of  
> "free" IPv4 addresses and businesses will do what they feel is  
> necessary to get around unenforceable bureaucratic rules.
>
> Regards,
> -drc

I am not as convinced as you are that routing of black-market IP will be
so readily available from service providers.

Owen