[ppml] /29 limit for ARIN SWIP whois
Stacy Taylor
ipgoddess at gmail.com
Tue Jan 8 16:59:10 EST 2008
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Hi Everyone,So, Joe - did you want to change it so that /28 and shorter prefix lengths should be swipped, and that the /29s are trivial? What is it you'd like us to look at? Thanks, Stacy Taylor ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ray Plzak <plzak at arin.net> Date: Jan 8, 2008 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] /29 limit for ARIN SWIP whois To: "arin-discuss at arin.net" <arin-discuss at arin.net> This discussion needs to move to the ppml as it concerns a policy and its merits and rationale. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss- > bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Leo Bicknell > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:14 PM > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] /29 limit for ARIN SWIP whois > > In a message written on Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:23:23AM -0500, Joe > Maimon wrote: > > Is there any overriding reason to limit ARIN swip to /29 or bigger? > > I will point out (in IPv4): > > /32 assignment (e.g. dial up, DSL, etc) is by definition 100% utilized. > > In terms of subnets, which only make sense if you have two more more > devices (router + one or more hosts): > > /31 subnet by definition is 100% used. > /30 subnet by definition is 100% used (router, host, network, > broadcast). > /29 subnet is at minimum 50% used (router, host, network, broadcast). > If we further assume this was done because a /30 was not large > enough (e.g. people are doing the right thing) there must be at > least 5/8's, or 62.5% in use. Also, while the standard may be 80% > utilization, which would require 7 of the 8 IP's to be in use; > that leaves an interesting corner case where 5/8 and 6/8 can't > fit in a /30, but don't meet 80%. Thus it makes sense to count > 5/8 and 6/8 as fully utilized, making it all but impossible to > have an underutilized /29. > > Now, one of ARIN's primary uses for the data is to insure assignments > were made in accordance with ARIN's rules when someone requests more > space. There's no reason to review a /30, /31, or 32, as there's no > chance those assignments were under-utilized. > > -- > Leo Bicknell - bicknell at ufp.org - CCIE 3440 > PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - > tmbg-list-request at tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact the ARIN Member Services Help Desk at info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -- :):) /S -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20080108/53ffca24/attachment.html
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