[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-6: Emergency TransferPolicy for IPv4 Addresses - Last Call

Tom Vest tvest at pch.net
Tue Dec 30 18:43:31 EST 2008


On Dec 30, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

>>   There is a black market in .....
>>
>>       Rolexs
>>       things that say Disney on them
>>       drugs
>>       weapons
>>       endangered species
>>       prostitution
>>       murder for hire
>>       babies
>
> you left out nuclear material, hitler, black helicopters, and the
> plague.  guilt by association is not a very convincing argument unless
> you like your news from murdoch.
>
> the market in ip space is black because we self-righteously protect  
> our
> control of the market from entry with amateur social excuses and  
> amateur
> policy making.

What distinguishes an amateur from a professional?
Expertise, experience, judgment -- or is simply getting paid to do  
something enough?
Or do you believe that "policy" itself is the problem, and that  
resource transfers will somehow eliminate both the need *and* the the  
very possibility of anyone else committing the sin of "address  
resource policy making" henceforth?

Actually, I'm not sure that I've ever heard you make any kind of  
positive assertion (i.e., not sarcastic comments about any/all  
alternatives) about what you expect resource transfers to accomplish.  
What's the end game going to be, Randy? How are transfers going to  
affect registration data quality, the risk of (intentional and/or  
unintentional) address collisions, the continuing viability of cross- 
jurisdictional IP networks/services, the future likelihood of IPv6  
adoption -- or any other TCP/IP-related development? When the amateurs  
leave the field, are the professionals going to take over, or will  
"policy" simply wither away altogether, as earlier utopians have  
repeatedly predicted?

It seems to me that the answers/expectations matter a lot, even if the  
future remains somewhat uncertain.

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