[ppml] IPv4 address and routing slot markets

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Mon Oct 29 11:40:58 EDT 2007


Please tell me simply what keeps those who wish to de-aggregate their
available blocks beyond that which ARIN will sanction...from using the
gray or black market to do so.

Bill Darte
ARIN Advisory Council



-----Original Message-----
From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of
Kevin Loch
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:16 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] IPv4 address and routing slot markets

michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>> However, if we go ahead and allow full 
>> deaggregation down to /24, as Geoff's proposal in APNIC would 
>> do, then we lose the ability to filter such routes without 
>> losing reachability.
> 
> Allow?
> 
> What business does ARIN or APNIC or RIPE have in allowing or
disallowing
> any kind of route announcements? It is not in the charter of ARIN or
in
> the terms of reference of RIPE. Is there a significant number of ISPs
> who are about to sign some kind of routing treaty?

What the RIR's could do is limit subdivision of assignments to
only a certain level when transferring them.   If you had a /16 you
could only sell it off in chunks of /20 for example.

The current RIR's have the best chance of implementing those kinds
of restrictions by supporting markets early, but time is running out.

- Kevin
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