[ppml] IPv6 assignment - proposal for change to nrpm
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Sun Oct 21 23:37:54 EDT 2007
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Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 10:08:25PM -0400, > briand at ca.afilias.info wrote: > Thus it would seem to me the risk is small, probably well less than > 500 ISP's, and likely under 100 who would need a second prefix in > any reasonable amount of time. That's hardly table bloat. The issue I'm trying to point out is: The consensus in the community is that dual-stack will be around for a long time, with 10 to 20 years being the predominate view. And, IPv4 prefix counts will not decrease by any significant amount during that period. Dual-stack means the combined prefix counts of IPv4 and IPv6 are the issue. Bloat of even a small amount in IPv6 may be enough to cause problems for significant numbers of ISPs who might be adversely affected at a financial level. So, if we can adopt policies which avoid causing problems for members of ARIN, when those policies do not themselves introduce problems, it would seem like a wise course of action. >> Static assignments and DHCPv6 assignments, for prefixes > /64, are not >> only >> possible, but fully compatible with the IETF specifications. > > However, they do preclude the use of IPv6 autoconfiguration. > It is for that reason I can't support any ARIN policies requiring > an ISP to allocate longer than /64 prefixes. I'm pretty sure the way I worded my proposal was the encouragement of, not the requirement of, ISPs allocating longer prefixes. I will go further in the details of what I will propose as a recommendation: that ISPs give out /64's or shorter, only when a customer *specifically* requests such with justification showing a network plan using auto-v6. It isn't a question of saying "never"; it's just a question of saying, let's not always assume auto-v6, and instead ask customers about their needs/plans. (Ideally, this would be a nice intro/wiki kind of thing.) > But back to your current goal. Get the IETF to deprecate IPv6 > auto-configuration; which will remove the /64 boundary as sacred. > At that point I'd be willing to talk about prefixes longer than a > /64 being required, until then it's premature. I'm working on them. Having support from the operator community, which says in principal, "We endorse the removal of /64 as a sacred boundary, and would like to see whatever revisions are needed to accomplish that implemented, ASAP", would go a long way to achieving that result. Like ARIN, the IETF is receptive to overwhelming support for proposals. :-) Brian
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