[ppml] IPv4 Soft Landing - Discussion andSupport/Non-SupportRequested
Ted Mittelstaedt
tedm at ipinc.net
Fri Oct 5 13:38:25 EDT 2007
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>-----Original Message----- >From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of >David Conrad >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:25 AM >To: <michael.dillon at bt.com> >Cc: ppml at arin.net >Subject: Re: [ppml] IPv4 Soft Landing - Discussion >andSupport/Non-SupportRequested > > >Michael, > >On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:34 AM, <michael.dillon at bt.com> ><michael.dillon at bt.com> wrote: >>> As mentioned in a previous note, ARIN staff have told me >>> explicitly that 100% utilization of previous allocations is an >>> existing requirement. >> >> That does not change the fact that 100% utilization is technically >> impossible. That's probably why the existing practice is to only >> audit the last allocation for 80% utilization and ignore all >> previous allocations. > >The fact that you believe existing practice differs from what ARIN >staff states is the current requirements raises interesting questions. > I think the problem here isn't in the percentages it is in the definition of "utilization" When filling out a address registration request I could state for example that I have allocated a total of 32 /29's to customers. ARIN doesen't require further justification on /29's that are allocated to end users. I could then claim 100% utilization on a /24. This of course would in no way impact the fact that I could likely go back to 80% of the customers that those /29's are allocated to and re-subnet them into /30s with no ill effects, and thereby generate more IP addresses for me to use. Or I could go into my network and remove all /30's on all serial links and replace them with IP unnumbered, or with private addresses, to generate further numbers. Or I could require some customers to use translation and port forwarding to reduce public number use. Or require virtual websites or some such. A "technical" full utilization would be ALL IP addresses in a given CIDR block to be IN USE as either host IPs, network IP's or broadcast IPs. I believe Michael was using "technically" in it's slang usage meaning "virtually impossible in most cases from a practical standpoint" In most production subnets it is virtually impossible in most cases from a practical standpoint that you will get full utilization for a long enough period of time to be able to see a IP request through. Ted
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