[ppml] IPv4 wind-down
Geoff Huston
gih at apnic.net
Wed Mar 21 18:03:50 EDT 2007
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At 09:37 AM 22/03/2007, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > Shortly we will be burning through 2+ /8's per month, so > > the logistics of reclaiming space will be challenged to > > keep up, even if there are blocks that add up to that > > much. > >An above ground v4 trade would be helpful. Allowing V4 to be >treated as property, at least for legacy space, would be >required. The economics of that are interesting, "interesting" in that "all markets are interesting" or "intersting in that "this market would be unique in a number of ways, only some of which are predictable"? > and the >outcome predictable. Again its not clear to me what you mean by 'predictable." Yes, in effect a market for a good prices itself against the cost of alternatives, and a market in IPv4 may well perceivce NATs and IPv6 as alternatives and prices within such an IPv4 market may well reflect the perceived cost (and benefit) of such alternatives. My question to you is whether this is what you mean by a predictable outcome, or are you hinting at some other view of the behaviour of such a market? > Seems like a smoother transition >than tossing a bomb into the problem like the aforementioned >policy seems >to do, IMHO. There is the view that its not the date of exhaustion that is the issue for industry - its the transition from the address distribution system we use today to what happens thereafter that is critical to industry stability here. The entire issue of demand levels of continued deployment of IPv4 and the likely levels of industry attention to alternatives look to be critical factors here when thinking about such transitions. Its an topic that appears to call for a broader (multi-disciplinary?) approach to understand the full extent of the industry dynamics here, and it certainly appears to be more than just the perspective of looking at this as a choice set of technically feasible alternatives being presented to a relatively homogenous industry that is capable of making coordinated decisions. Geoff
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