[ppml] Revising Centrally Assigned ULA draft
David Conrad
drc at virtualized.org
Tue Jun 19 18:34:45 EDT 2007
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Leo, On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > I think we have to make some educated guess at what is probable. Indeed. My (perhaps not so) educated guesses: - In the face of a lack of consensus that routing technology is facing a scalability crisis, there will be increasing economic, business, religious, and political pressure to further liberalize IPv6 allocation policies, with the end state being "at least one PI / 48 on request". This pressure (political, in particular, egged on by the economic, business and religious) will increase exponentially as the IPv4 free pool depletes. - Pointing out that router upgrades cost money and take time will be taken as merely being co-opted into the vast ISP conspiracy aimed at the continued suppression of the non-ISP masses by either Lazy or Evil Greedy Bastards(tm) (been there, seen that, and actually do have the T-shirt). - Inertia being the second most powerful force in the universe will actively resist deployment of any significant shift in Internet technology (e.g., loc/id split) unless somehow the first most powerful force in the universe, profit motive, can be utilized to overcome inertia. - Threats of imminent death of the Internet due to routers falling over or infinite bgp convergence times are insufficient to trigger the first most powerful force in the universe because ISPs can, have, and will apply filters to protect their own infrastructure and customers. - The first most powerful force in the universe will be against you when people who have obtained /48s via liberalized PI allocation policies (either being discussed or implemented in all RIRs as I understand it) come to their ISPs and offer cold hard cash to have those /48s routed. As network engineers, you will lose the battle against the sales and marketing folks. - There are 5 geographical monopolies, each with their own agenda. That the ARIN community makes a decision regarding the appropriateness of PI-for-everybody has little affect on the communities in the other geographic monopolies. In fact, it is easy to imagine the first most powerful force in the universe acting to encourage an RIR to meet its community's demands in a way that ensures financial sustainability in the face of the post-IPv4-free- pool apocalypse. Of course, these are just guesses. > We need a method of deciding "worth" that can be implemented > independently by each ISP and does not require them to trust their > neighbor. I don't disagree. Are RIR policies the best place to establish worth? Rgds, -drc
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