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[ppml] Policy Proposal: ISP to LIR Clarification - version 1.1 - AC did not accept

On 23 August 2007, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) concluded its review
of the proposed policy 'ISP to LIR Clarification' and did not accept it
as a formal policy proposal. The AC did not accept the proposal because
the AC feels that this is not a policy matter, instead it should be
incorporated into NRPM edit work that is being done by several members
of the AC.

During the initial review period the AC may decide to:
1)  Accept the proposal as a formal policy proposal as written.
2)  Postpone their decision regarding the proposal until the next
regularly scheduled AC meeting in order to work with the author.
3)  Not accept the policy proposal.

In the event that the AC decides not to accept the proposal, then the
author may elect to use the petition process to advance the proposal.
For petition details see the section called "Petition Process" in the
ARIN Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process which can be found at:
http://www.arin.net/policy/irpep.html

The deadline for the author to initiate a petition per the ARIN Internet
Resource Policy Evaluation Process is 40 days prior to the meeting; the
petition deadline for the ARIN XX Public Policy Meeting is 23:59 EDT, 7
September 2007. If the author chooses not to petition or the petition is
unsuccessful, then the proposed policy is closed. If a petition is
successful, then the proposal will be numbered and posted for discussion
and presented at ARIN's Public Policy Meeting.

Regards,

Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)



Member Services wrote:
> The author submitted a revised version of their proposal.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> 
> ## * ##
> 
> 
> Policy Proposal Name: ISP to LIR Clarification
> 
> Author: Leo Bicknell
> 
> Proposal Version: 1.1
> 
> Submission Date: 8/22/2007
> 
> Proposal type: modify
> 
> Policy term: permanent
> 
> Policy statement:
> 
> Replace all instances of the word "ISP" in the NRPM with the word
> "LIR" and replace all instances of the phrase "LIR/ISP" with "LIR",
> except for the following:
> 
> * Leave section 2.4 unchanged.
> * Leave section 2.7 unchanged.
> * In section 4.1.1, replace "ISPs" with "requesters".
> * In section 4.2.1.1, also remove "Internet Service Providers".
> * Leave section 6.2.4 unchanged.
> * Leave section 6.3.4 unchanged.
> * In section 6.9, replace "ISPs and LIRs" with "LIRs" for all three
> occurrence.
> 
> Rationale:
> 
> The NRPM is inconsistent.  The terms ISP and LIR are used interchangeably
> throughout the document, with the term ISP being predominant in the
> IPv4 sections and the term LIR being predominant in the IPv6 sections.
> 
> The use of the term ISP poses two different problems:
> 
> 1) The term has meaning outside of ARIN's policy.  Multiple discussions
>     on PPML have degenerated over people arguing what an ISP is with
>     regards to policy when the reality is that the relationship is
>     defined in the NRPM.  As LIR has no meaning outside of policy
>     this confusion will be removed.
> 
> 2) The other four RIRs have standardized on LIR.  This change will make
>     it easier for those doing business with more than one LIR to use
>     consistent terms.
> 
> This change does not alter any policy, it merely makes the policy easier
> to understand.
> 
> Timetable for implementation:  immediate
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Member Services wrote:
> 
>>ARIN received the following policy proposal. In accordance with the ARIN
>>Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process, the proposal is being
>>posted to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) and being placed on
>>ARIN's website.
>>
>>The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review this proposal at their next
>>regularly scheduled meeting. The AC may decide to:
>>
>>   1. Accept the proposal as a formal policy proposal as written. If the
>>AC accepts the proposal, it will be posted as a formal policy proposal
>>to PPML and it will be presented at a Public Policy Meeting.
>>
>>   2. Postpone their decision regarding the proposal until the next
>>regularly scheduled AC meeting in order to work with the author. The AC
>>will work with the author to clarify, combine or divide the proposal. At
>>their following meeting the AC will accept or not accept the proposal.
>>
>>   3. Not accept the proposal. If the AC does not accept the proposal,
>>the AC will explain their decision. If a proposal is not accepted, then
>>the author may elect to use the petition process to advance their
>>proposal. If the author elects not to petition or the  petition fails,
>>then the proposal will be closed.
>>
>>The AC will assign shepherds in the near future. ARIN will provide the
>>names of the shepherds to the community via the PPML.
>>
>>In the meantime, the AC invites everyone to comment on this proposal on
>>the PPML, particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
>>behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
>>vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
>>
>>The ARIN Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process can be found at:
>>http://www.arin.net/policy/irpep.html
>>
>>Mailing list subscription information can be found at:
>>http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Member Services
>>American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>>## * ##
>>
>>
>>Policy Proposal Name: ISP to LIR Clarification
>>
>>Author: Leo Bicknell
>>
>>Proposal Version: 1.0
>>
>>Submission Date: 8/17/2007
>>
>>Proposal type: modify
>>
>>Policy term: permanent
>>
>>Policy statement:
>>
>>Replace all instances of the word "ISP" in the NRPM with the word "LIR"
>>and replace all instances of the phrase "LIR/ISP" with "LIR", except for
>>the following:
>>
>>* Leave section 2.4 unchanged.
>>* Leave section 2.7 unchanged.
>>* In section 4.1.1, replace "ISPs" with "requesters".
>>* In section 4.2, also remove "Internet Service Providers".
>>* Leave section 6.2.4 unchanged.
>>* Leave section 6.3.4 unchanged.
>>* In section 6.9, replace "ISPs and LIRs" with "LIRs" for all three
>>occurrence.
>>
>>Rationale:
>>
>>The NRPM is inconsistent.  The terms ISP and LIR are used
>>interchangeably throughout the document, with the term ISP being
>>predominant in the IPv4 sections and the term LIR being predominant in
>>the IPv6 sections.
>>
>>The use of the term ISP poses two different problems:
>>
>>1) The term has meaning outside of ARIN's policy.  Multiple discussions
>>    on PPML have degenerated over people arguing what an ISP is with
>>    regards to policy when the reality is that the relationship is
>>    defined in the NRPM.  As LIR has no meaning outside of policy
>>    this confusion will be removed.
>>
>>2) The other four RIRs have standardized on LIR.  This change will make
>>    it easier for those doing business with more than one LIR to use
>>    consistent terms.
>>
>>This change does not alter any policy, it merely makes the policy easier
>>to understand.
>>
>>Timetable for implementation:  immediate
>>
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