[ppml] ARIN member in good standing?
Peter Sherbin
pesherb at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 28 16:58:25 EDT 2006
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>Many people believe that the recipient of numbering resources also > acquires some obligations along with them Many people believing something do not necessarily make that thing to be true. As a user of a postal address I feel no obligations to the Postal Service. Contrary to that I expect the postal service to deliver my prepaid message in a timely and secure fashion. The Internet is an electronic version of a global postal service. As such it should move to a proper financial model where each delivery is paid for according to its volume and destination. Here is a proposed model: PI addresses RIR invoices every entity with telecommunications licence in the region a per sibscriber fee to cover admin expenses Regional issuer of telecom licenses determines the fee amount as well as makes such fee a condition of the license (don't mean to regulate the Internet but please share your comments) Thanks, Peter Sherbin --- Michael.Dillon at btradianz.com wrote: > > What happens when ARIN can no longer contact them or if they have > decided > > to cut contact with ARIN? > > Now you are asking a more general question unrelated > to 2006-2. If ARIN issues AS numbers or IP addresses > to an organization and that organization ceases to > pay ARIN subscription fees then that organization is > failing to fulfil its social contract with the ARIN > community. Many organizations which are run by members > have the concept of "member in good standing" and when > a member ceases to be in good standing, either by failing > to pay fees or for some other reason, the organization > removes membership benefits and eventual unilateraly > discharges the member. > > Does the ARIN RSA make this social contract into > a legal contract? If not, then should it? > > Quite frankly, I don't have the answers but I think > that before we can deal with the issue of organizations > losing contact, we need to be clear on what is the > social contract between individual numbering resource > users and the community of numbering resource users. > I think ARIN fairly represents the community and therefore > if any social contract is cast into a legal contract, > ARIN should be the legal representative of the community. > But I don't believe that we have openly discussed this > issue in terms of a social contract before. Many people > believe that the recipient of numbering resources also > acquires some obligations along with them, but we have > not expressed this in a general and comprehensive way > before. > > Today, the unspoken social contract is enforced in secret > largely because organizations know that they will likely > have to return to ARIN for numbering resources multiple > times. After the migration to IPv6, most organizations > will not need additional numbering resources from ARIN and > unless the unspoken social contract becomes embodied in > legal contracts and written ARIN policies, there will be > no incentive to meet the obligations of the contract. > > --Michael Dillon > > _______________________________________________ > PPML mailing list > PPML at arin.net > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/ppml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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