ARIN-PPML Message

[ppml] Fw: IRS goes IPv6!

On 2/20/06 2:43 PM, "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen at sprunk.org> wrote:

> Thus spake "Robert E.Seastrom" <rs at seastrom.com>
>> "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen at sprunk.org> writes:
>>> Absent a comment from the author, a reasonable reading of the text
>>> gives the original intent not as "some small closed group of people
>>> know the org is an ISP" but rather "is known to the public as an ISP".
>>> IRS-IT fails the latter.
>> 
>> Careful there, you're dangerously close to disenfranchising
>> organizations such as SITA and DISA by advocating that requirement.
> 
> Okay, perhaps "to the public" would be going a little too far, but SITA is
> known as an carrier in the telecom world (though I didn't realize they're an
> ISP too -- or is that Equant?), as is DISA.  DISA is certainly well-known to
> ARIN and IANA, having received several /8s dating back to 1993, and
> similarly SITA has one from 1995.
> 
> Undoubtedly both could qualify under the "200 other organizations" clause in
> any case, though, so it doesn't matter if they're "known".  Clearly, both
> fit well as LIRs, probably better than as end-sites (which are the current
> topic).
> 

This is almost like obscenity - "I know it when I see it". ARIN needs to
come up with a real definition for a service provider, or at least have some
clear examples for their folks to use as a guideline.

Google?
Yahoo?
DISA?
SITA?
Walmart?
IBM?
EDS?

It makes my head hurt.


> S
> 
> Stephen Sprunk        "Stupid people surround themselves with smart
> CCIE #3723           people.  Smart people surround themselves with
> K5SSS         smart people who disagree with them."  --Aaron Sorkin
> 

- Dan