[ppml] Last Call Petition Vote request on Policy Proposal 2003-9 (Whois Acceptalble Use)
As an author of the proposal 2003-9 which is currently being considered
for abandonment due latest action by ARIN AC, I'm asking for people who
support this policy proposal to reply to this post or otherwise post to
the list on ppml stating your support and to send email to petition at arin.net
confirming that within the next 10 days. As specified in the ARIN Internet
Policy Evaluation Process this is an effort to advance the proposal through
"Last Call Petition Process".
The policy proposal text is available at
Full history of this proposal with previous versions and with summary of
the activities related to this proposal together with centrally collected
copies of ARIN AC and Public Policy Meetings minutes can be found at
The proposal tries to deal with current situation that standard ARIN whois
queries have no data protection and people are free to use the data obtained
that way any any way they want including for sending unsoliciated emails
and for unsolicited phone calls by marketeers (and both happened to me
and were specifically result of arin data). I believe my position that we
dont want arin whois data to be used in this way is supported by majority.
Additionally proposal addresses some issues with bulk whois access
providing for standard and expanded process of how this data can be
obtained and allowing for bulk whois data to be received by individuals
(current bulk whois only allows access to organizations).
I note that this policy is being considered for abandonment because possibly
there was not enough participation to show support for it during last public
policy meeting in April (although majority of those who voted were in
support for it). In fact this was the very last public policy proposal
on the last day of the meeting just several hours before it were to end and
I very much felt that there was certain apathy to participation as people
were simply tired. As a result there were less then 10 people voting total.
However during previous meeting the same policy proposal with almost same
text (the only change was removal of legal language as was requested by
the AC) received more then 25 votes for it as well as during previous
meetings there was shown equal or larger support for having unified whois
aup as well. The comments received from participants in regards to text
of the AUP were all included when authoring current version of the
proposal. and it would be bad if this effort to improve current whois
access procedures and policies were to be abandoned which I have worked
on for more then year now.
I also note that the only opposition shown during latest meeting was
from chair of the AC who thinks the policy is unenforceable. I disagree
and can point to many cases where registry whois AUPs have been enforced
including by legal means if necessary. Additionally on last meeting there
was some discussion on how strong the AUP should be and what ARIN should
do in cases of violations. I have specifially worded proposal in such a
way as to remove actual legal text and to let ARIN council decided this.
I'm not against stronger action by ARIN if ARIN council thinks this should
be included as part of the AUP text, that is fine. I'm however against
having these actions specifially spelled out as part of the proposal text
and support Leo Bicknell's position that separate ARIN policy should deal
with what actions are appropriate to be taken in regards to violations of
P.S. My apologies for sending this call petition request so late, I know
its already almost 11:30pm here and its the last day when I can send this
petition. I did note that however before that I would be doing it this
week. Also I'll be making small reminder about this petition on Tuesday,
the reason is that Monday is a holiday and I think many may choose to
leave for vacation tomorrow and may not return before Tuesday and as such
may not notice this post when they come back in next week.
william at elan.net