[ppml] Access to Bulk WHOIS data - a possible proposal?

Ian Baker ibaker at codecutters.org
Wed May 21 05:19:06 EDT 2003


Hi,
    After some e-mail conversation with Mike at the ARIN helpdesk, I am
thinking about putting-forward a proposal concerning access to bulk WHOIS
data.

However, being a newbie at this, I thought it better to open-up discussions
/before/ submitting such a proposal. If this is the wrong way of doing
things, or has already been rejected in the past (couldn’t see anything
obvious in the archives) then please just let me know..

Basically, I have written an IP to country/continent translator. It is
initially being used to provide a geographical visitor profile to my web
site, and as a filter mechanism of the anti-spam e-mail server that is
currently awaiting release.

RIPE an APNIC data is processed using the bulk databases, taking around 3
minutes, whereas the ARIN portion means sitting on the WHOIS throttling
limit for a continuous 2 to 7 days. The reason being, I’m a private
individual.

Apparently the rules are such that bulk WHOIS data is only available to
corporations, and not individuals.

I can understand the reasoning behind such a rule – an individual
spammer/cracker would be pretty difficult to track-down in the event of an
abuse of access – but I’m not convinced that this should be an /absolute/
rule. My reasoning is thus:

1. The rule does not make a distinction between “white-hat” and “black-hat”
activity – a corporation that later goes on to, or is acquired by an
organization that, employs undesirable practices (e.g. spamming) may be
permitted access, while a private individual is not.

2. Much of the data is publicly available, if one is willing to wait long
enough

3. The data provided by a general WHOIS search is less accurate, as – from a
sample of the run thus far – large blocks are allocated to individual
organizations with no real way of determining whether smaller blocks have
been sub-allocated to different organizations and countries. Which greatly
reduces the accuracy of the data sampled.

4. The majority of spamming data would appear to originate from trawls of
Usenet, the Web, and SMTP servers.

5. Depending upon what checks are made, there may be nothing to stop an
individual from falsely claiming to represent an organization (e.g. Chief
Fan Sanitation Engineer for ImadeThisUp Inc., or - if checks are in place -
simply using their employer’s name without their knowledge). This allows the
possibility of "black-hat" individuals gaining access to the data, while
still inhibiting access by those of a more honest nature.

My conclusion is therefore that the ban on private access does not
particularly aid the development of the Internet as a whole, while it most
definitely inhibits certain aspects.

My proposal is, therefore, to remove the ban on private individuals having
access to bulk WHOIS data and decide the issue purely on merit.

Now – what have I missed? ;o)

Regards,

Ian Baker
Webmaster, codecutters.org &
EMEA Support Manager, OpenConnect Systems Ltd.




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