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[ppml] Cont of 2002-6 discussion with question for all.....

place DNS servers on the legacy DNS stuff, then poison the
replys with an IP to a "Please fix your network" web page..

Or get registries and registrars to be more active in cleaning 
up their glue records

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of McBurnett, Jim
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:00 PM
> To: Taylor, Stacy; Joe Baptista; David Conrad
> Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
> Subject: [ppml] Cont of 2002-6 discussion with question for all.....
> 
> 
> Well,
> I think that is a question for the list.
> How can we clean this legacy space?
> We all know it is going to get worse.
> 
> ISP A, B and C turn in a dozen or so disparet class C's. With 
> at least 30 - 40 (or more) server IP addresses per ISP, the 
> new user of that block could be deluged by requests, 
> espeically if they happen to put up a DNS server or webserver 
> on the sae IP as the predessor... There has to be a way to 
> clean the space...
> 
> Could there be a search engine created to identify who owned 
> it previously? An update to core providers?
> 
> IDEAS anyone?
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taylor, Stacy [mailto:Stacy_Taylor at icgcomm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:56 PM
> To: McBurnett, Jim; Joe Baptista; David Conrad
> Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
> Subject: RE: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2002-6
> 
> 
> As the administrator for an extremely legacy network, (was 
> NETCOM), I run into this issue frequently.  What it does is 
> beg the question of how to clean up previously used space, 
> which is another issue entirely.
> 
> Stacy 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McBurnett, Jim [mailto:jmcburnett at msmgmt.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:43 PM
> To: Joe Baptista; David Conrad
> Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
> Subject: RE: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2002-6
> 
> 
> Exactly!
> I got a Class C from my provider and I get at least 500-1000 
> hits a day to two of my IP's for DNS services, Which are 
> there anymore and other less frequent hits to web services 
> ports. The problem I see is: How can you tell those 
> uninformed users that they aren't to use the IP's anymore and 
> how to find out who used to have those IP addresses. Wouldn't 
> it be bad if some illegitimate business had those IP's before 
> you? (assumedly they had a shorter than a /24)
> 
> As David said.. This is my 2 cents worth...
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Baptista [mailto:baptista at dot-god.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:36 PM
> To: David Conrad
> Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2002-6
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, David Conrad wrote:
> 
> > > Used IPs are not as good as fresh ones.
> >
> > Interesting assertion.  Why do you say this?
> 
> legacy traffic ...
>