From memsvcs at arin.net Fri Mar 1 08:59:03 2002 From: memsvcs at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 08:59:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: New Policies Ratified Message-ID: Two new policies have been ratified in the ARIN region: Policy 2001-2 Reassignments to multihomed downstream customers Policy 2001-6 Multiple Discrete Networks -- Single Maintainer ID These policies were created in accordance with ARIN's Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process. The full text of these policies are linked from the following URL: http://www.arin.net/regserv/IPv4services.htm Information about ARIN's Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process is available at: http://www.arin.net/arin/policy_eval_process.html Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From memsvcs at arin.net Fri Mar 8 10:30:50 2002 From: memsvcs at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:30:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Policy Proposal 2002-1 Message-ID: ARIN welcomes feedback and discussion about the following policy proposal in the weeks leading to the ARIN public policy and members meetings in Las Vegas, scheduled for April 7-10, 2002. All feedback received on the mailing lists about this policy proposal will be included in the discussions that will take place at the upcoming public policy meeting. ***** Policy Proposal 2002-1: Lame Delegations in IN-ADDR.ARPA It is proposed that ARIN actively identify lame servers on a regular basis and notify the ARIN point of contact (POC) of their findings. It is further proposed that ARIN monitor the status of those identified lame servers and remove all delegations that remain lame for a period of 30 days. ***** It is understood there are many issues that need to be discussed related to this policy proposal. Specifically: * How should the term "lame" be defined, as it relates to this proposed policy? * There has been recent discussion about the desire for WHOIS to more strictly reflect the delegations within IN-ADDR.ARPA. o Should lame delegations be identified in WHOIS, or simply removed? o If they are only flagged as lame, are they ever removed? o If they are removed, should ARIN publicly document removals? * How should the POCs of networks with lame servers be contacted by ARIN? * Should ARIN proactively or reactively conduct monitoring to identify lame delegations? This policy proposal discussion will take place on the database working group mailing list (dbwg at arin.net). Subscription information is available at http://www.arin.net/members/mailing.htm Richard Jimmerson Director of Operations American Registry for Internet Numbers From randy at psg.com Fri Mar 8 12:42:44 2002 From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:42:44 -0800 Subject: Policy Proposal 2002-1 References: Message-ID: > Policy Proposal 2002-1: Lame Delegations in IN-ADDR.ARPA > > It is proposed that ARIN actively identify lame servers on a regular > basis and notify the ARIN point of contact (POC) of their findings. It > is further proposed that ARIN monitor the status of those identified > lame servers and remove all delegations that remain lame for a period of > 30 days. yes!!! at last, something to move towards cleaning up bad data and keeping it clean. thank you! > * How should the term "lame" be defined, as it relates to this proposed > policy? any of the delegatee servers does not return soa and exactly matching ns rrset to queries > o Should lame delegations be identified in WHOIS, or simply removed? removed. whois cruisin' humans are not hurt by lamers, systems using dns are. > o If they are removed, should ARIN publicly document removals? it would be nice if the whois noted it, so that folk debugging could see, > * How should the POCs of networks with lame servers be contacted by > ARIN? whois data > * Should ARIN proactively or reactively conduct monitoring to identify > lame delegations? yes! randy From memsvcs at arin.net Thu Mar 14 07:53:40 2002 From: memsvcs at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:53:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARIN IX: Expanded Agenda Posted Message-ID: The ARIN user community is encouraged to check out the full range of discussion topics and tutorials on the agenda for ARIN IX. Make your plans now to be an active participant and register for the April meeting in Las Vegas. http://www.arin.net/meetings/ARIN_IX/index.html Please secure your hotel reservations by March 22, for after that date rooms will be more expensive and possibly sold out. Comments concerning the agenda and additional topic suggestions may be sent to memsvcs at arin.net. ARIN appreciates the commitment of Cox Communications in sponsoring this meeting. Susan Hamlin Director, Member Services From markk at netsol.com Tue Mar 19 22:52:43 2002 From: markk at netsol.com (Mark Kosters) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:52:43 -0500 Subject: proposed revision to the micro-allocation policy Message-ID: <20020320035243.GA1681@netsol.com> Hi The current micro-allocation policy is a bit broken and needs some help. So, I've edited it some and expanded it to include IPv6 allocations. I'd like to hear your comments on any improvements to this proposed policy enhancement. Regards, Mark -- Mark Kosters markk at netsol.com Verisign Applied Research -------------- next part -------------- ARIN will make micro-allocations to critical infrastructure providers of the Internet, including public exchange points, core DNS service providers (e.g. ICANN-sanctioned root, gTLD, and ccTLD operators) as well as the allocation agencies (RIRs and IANA). These allocations will be no longer than a /24 using ipv4 or a /48 using ipv6. Multiple allocations may be granted in certain situations. Note that exchange point allocations should not be announced on the public Internet whereas the others may be announced on the Internet. ARIN will provide a list of Micro-allocations to apprise ISPs on what blocks are allocated to aid in their route filter development. Exchange point operators must provide justification for the allocation, including: connection policy, location, other participants (minimum of two), ASN, and contact information. ISPs and other organizations receiving these micro-allocations will be charged under the ISP fee schedule, while end users will be charged under the fee schedule for end users. This policy does not preclude exchange point operators from requesting address space under other policies. From jfleming at anet.com Wed Mar 20 03:05:17 2002 From: jfleming at anet.com (Jim Fleming) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 02:05:17 -0600 Subject: proposed revision to the micro-allocation policy References: <20020320035243.GA1681@netsol.com> Message-ID: <009c01c1cfe5$f98b4940$0f9d5cc6@UNIR> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kosters" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:52 PM Subject: proposed revision to the micro-allocation policy > Hi > > The current micro-allocation policy is a bit broken and needs some > help. So, I've edited it some and expanded it to include IPv6 allocations. > I'd like to hear your comments on any improvements to this proposed > policy enhancement. > > Regards, > Mark > > -- > > Mark Kosters markk at netsol.com Verisign Applied Research > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg15492.html From: Masataka Ohta There actually is no shortage of IPv4 addresses. The primary reason of why NAT is so popular is that NICs do not offer IPv4 addresses promptly, because NICs feared shortage of IPv4 addresses. The wrong policy on IPv4 address assignment made NAT profittable. ----- Correct....the I* society has created those flawed policies to pay their insiders and to give their insiders an unfair advantage. In some cases, the I* insiders have attempted to shake people down for money, graft, kick-backs, etc. to obtain the artificially scarce Internet resources that they carefully control, like diamonds from mines in Africa. Now that we have a more and more educated Internet population, they are seeing the fraud and corruption that the I* society Taliban (or Teleban) have spread around the world. Freedom loving people (as George W. says) need to continue to educate people, keep working on the new code in Linux and FreeBSD, and keep helping their clueless government officials understand who has been responsible for this I* society period of history and how dangerous it is to allow them to continue to infect the fabrics of our real societies. Jim Fleming http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt From memsvcs at arin.net Wed Mar 27 08:01:02 2002 From: memsvcs at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:01:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARIN Releases New Website Message-ID: ARIN proudly unveils its new website and with it the official introduction of our new logo. Changes in the site are the direct result of public and member comments collected over the past two years from mailing lists, CLEW discussions, and input solicited at Public Policy and Members meetings. We would like to point out a few of the new and improved features: - Navigation is more logical and user-friendly - A site wide search engine has been added - New Policy and Meeting sections, as well as a Network Abuse page - WHOIS search available from every page - Announcements now dated and archived - Mailing list archives updated - About Us section revised - Top fixed buttons for: Contact Us, Mailing Lists, Site Map, Statistics, Network Abuse, and Newsletter - Menu categories for Registration, Policy, Meetings, Membership, Library, Internet Info, Tools and About Us - Expanded and better organized Library page - Improved directory structure and file naming convention Coming in the future: an ARIN member's page, web-based training and more! Stay tuned... We look forward to hearing your comments regarding the new site. General comments, questions or comments about content, and reports of technical difficulties should be sent to webmaster at arin.net. ARIN Member Services From jlewis at lewis.org Wed Mar 27 08:36:55 2002 From: jlewis at lewis.org (jlewis at lewis.org) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:36:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARIN Releases New Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Member Services wrote: > > ARIN proudly unveils its new website and with it the official > introduction of our new logo. Changes in the site are the direct result of > public and member comments collected over the past two years from mailing > lists, CLEW discussions, and input solicited at Public Policy and Members > meetings. It's nice to see that IP registration fees are being spent so wisely. The front page fails to render in Opera 6.0beta1 on Linux. The text sections under Registration and Policy overlap themselves and are unreadable. The old site rendered fine AFAICR. Shouldn't a site with such widely needed information use as simple coding as possible in order to maximize browser compatibility? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis at lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________ From jlewis at lewis.org Wed Mar 27 11:00:28 2002 From: jlewis at lewis.org (jlewis at lewis.org) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:00:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARIN Releases New Website In-Reply-To: <01b101c1d5a7$217e61f0$3eaa2181@MarkLaptop> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Mark Fowle wrote: > I think you missed the concept of constructive criticism. > > The site looks great, with good a menuing system, whois on the front page > etc. That's kind of my point. I agree the site looks very nice other than the Opera rendering issue. It's a much more attractive and aesthetically pleasing site...but it also looks like it cost alot more to produce than the previous site. If you're a business trying to make a good first impression on potential customers, this makes sense. If you're a non-profit running a registry for a captive customer/member base, why go to the expense? How much time/$ was spent designing and choosing the new logo? Why did ARIN need a new logo? > I haven't tried the site with any version of Opera, yet, but the site says > it supports Opera 6+, so if there is a problem it should be a minor one that > is fixed quickly. > I must add that I have checked the code and it certainly looks compliant. > Maybe you should upgrade from the Beta version to the release version 6.01. I've tried the latest public release of Opera for Linux. It fails to render the front page. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis at lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________ From randy at psg.com Wed Mar 27 11:09:19 2002 From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:09:19 -0800 Subject: ARIN Releases New Website References: <01b101c1d5a7$217e61f0$3eaa2181@MarkLaptop> Message-ID: i appreciate arin spending a little effort to make my life as a member, user, customer, vic^h^h^h easier and more pleasant. my issue is the list of "Supported Browswrs." imiho, the site should actually be and declare itself to be http standards compliant, a la . it might be appropriate to additionally list those browsers with which it has been tested. but the key point is standards compliance. randy From john at chagres.net Wed Mar 27 12:08:31 2002 From: john at chagres.net (John M. Brown) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:08:31 -0700 Subject: ARIN Releases New Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would be nice if this site was as easy to use as say RIPE or APNIC's site. Support for more diversity in browsers would be good. As the current site does not work well within LYNX, LINKS or other non-graphic based browsers. The heavy use of graphics based buttons and the like make it more expensive to unusable for those that don't have high bandwidth, or for those that pay for bandwidth on a usage basis. I personally don't like the wavy menu bar, it and the header take up at least 1/3 of a page at 800x600. It could be easily reduced, still look good and be more functional in less space. One must keep in mind that not everyone has broadband, latest video hardware, etc. The site should respect those in non-US regions where bandwidth is more expensive, not as fast, and may not have the most recent hardware/software or resolutions. John Brown > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net]On Behalf Of > Member Services > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:01 AM > To: arin-announce at arin.net; ppml at arin.net > Subject: ARIN Releases New Website > > > > ARIN proudly unveils its new website and with it the official > introduction of our new logo. Changes in the site are the direct result of > public and member comments collected over the past two years from mailing > lists, CLEW discussions, and input solicited at Public Policy and Members > meetings. > > We would like to point out a few of the new and improved features: > > - Navigation is more logical and user-friendly > - A site wide search engine has been added > - New Policy and Meeting sections, as well as a Network Abuse page > - WHOIS search available from every page > - Announcements now dated and archived > - Mailing list archives updated > - About Us section revised > - Top fixed buttons for: Contact Us, Mailing Lists, Site Map, Statistics, > Network Abuse, and Newsletter > - Menu categories for Registration, Policy, Meetings, Membership, Library, > Internet Info, Tools and About Us > - Expanded and better organized Library page > - Improved directory structure and file naming convention > > Coming in the future: an ARIN member's page, web-based training and more! > Stay tuned... > > We look forward to hearing your comments regarding the new site. General > comments, questions or comments about content, and reports of technical > difficulties should be sent to webmaster at arin.net. > > > ARIN Member Services > > > From mike at highertech.net Wed Mar 27 12:46:32 2002 From: mike at highertech.net (Mike Harrison) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:46:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARIN Releases New Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Support for more diversity in browsers would be good. > > As the current site does not work well within LYNX, LINKS or other > non-graphic based browsers. The heavy use of graphics based buttons The very idea that is has a 'Supported Browsers' link and not a 'Supported Standards' philosophy is just the icing on the cake. Dreamweaver is a good tool, and it's a nice template driven look and feel 9 out of 10 corporate websites would be proud to have. I'm also not sure it's appropriate for ARIN and the audience/mission of ARIN. From mury at goldengate.net Wed Mar 27 13:36:33 2002 From: mury at goldengate.net (Mury) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:36:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: ARIN Releases New Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I should know better than to say anything, but being the idiot I sometimes am, here goes... How often is someone needing ARIN services that pays for bandwidth on a K to K basis going to go to the ARIN website and blow their bandwidth budget? If loading the ARIN page wrecks somebody's bottom line, let me know where to send donations. I just don't see that being any issue at all. As far as not supporting all the different browsers and not working well with lynx and other non gui tools... I still use pine, mutt, vi, pico, etc. I prefer to work in the Unix command line world, but the world (the world I helped create) is moving in a different direction. I'll break out IE 6 when I need to and I won't complain about it. Organizations, even ARIN, cannot cater to the lowest common denominator. About the page loading slowly. The text and the links load first, people on 200 baud connections don't have to wait for the graphics to load. I think the new web site is an improvement. It's certainly better organized, it looks better (even though not many of us care), and whatever was spent on the project was probably worth it. My two cents... Mury From leth at primus.ca Wed Mar 27 13:42:31 2002 From: leth at primus.ca (Jason Hunt) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:42:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARIN Releases New Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Randy Bush wrote: > i appreciate arin spending a little effort to make my life as a > member, user, customer, vic^h^h^h easier and more pleasant. my > issue is the list of "Supported Browswrs." imiho, the site should > actually be and declare itself to be http standards compliant, a > la . it might be appropriate > to additionally list those browsers with which it has been tested. > but the key point is standards compliance. The page *does* render properly on Galeon (Mozilla/Netscape 6 based) It is interesting to note that by running www.arin.net through the W3C's HTML validator (http://validator.w3.org/) it comes up with numerous problems. The first one was no DTD or DOCTYPE being specified. The rest are commenting problems, missing ALT tags, and invalid attributes. Also it appears the website was created in fireworks/dreamwaver. I wonder how much that costs. Why not use vi or notepad or the like? From randy at psg.com Wed Mar 27 13:43:15 2002 From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:43:15 -0800 Subject: ARIN Releases New Website References: Message-ID: > How often is someone needing ARIN services that pays for > bandwidth on a K to K basis going to go to the ARIN website and > blow their bandwidth budget? well, the next few weeks i will be accessing it from very thin and expensive connections in africa. in fact, much of africa is covered by arin, and bandwidth there is not cheap or plentiful. > I'll break out IE 6 when I need to and I won't complain about it. > Organizations, even ARIN, cannot cater to the lowest common > denominator. maybe, maybe not. but the point is that they should follow standards. > I think the new web site is an improvement. It's certainly better > organized agree. randy From richardj at arin.net Fri Mar 29 17:23:32 2002 From: richardj at arin.net (Richard Jimmerson) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:23:32 -0500 Subject: FW: ARIN Database and Template Transition Message-ID: <000901c1d770$5c5c33e0$93fc95c0@cobalt> The following events related to ARIN's database and template transition are scheduled for the upcoming ARIN IX meeting (April 7-10): * 2002 Templates Tutorial covering the new ARIN templates and database * Getting a Jump Start on Your Org ID Information session describing your transition to the new ARIN database * Database Working Group (DBWG) Meeting Report and discussion session that will cover items related to the new database and templates More information about these events and other agenda items for the ARIN IX meeting are available at: http://www.arin.net/membership/meetings/arin_ix/agenda.html Definitions of the new templates and point of contact (POC) types are now available at: http://www.arin.net/library/training/2002_templates/ Regards, Richard Jimmerson Director of Operations American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Jimmerson [mailto:richardj at arin.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:08 PM To: 'arin-announce at arin.net'; 'ppml at arin.net'; 'dbwg at arin.net' Subject: ARIN Database and Template Transition ARIN will transition to a new database and templates in June of 2002. Over the past year, ARIN has developed requirements for the new database with input from members of the ARIN user community at ARIN meetings and on the DB Working Group mailing list, dbwg at arin.net. A training program describing the new database and templates is currently under development. This training program will be offered in person at the upcoming ARIN meeting in April, and on-line for those who are unable to attend the meeting. Training will focus primarily on the new objects of the ARIN database and the newly designed templates. The newly designed templates are available now at: ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/new-templates/ The templates incorporate the comments submitted via the DB Working Group with the efforts of Registration Services and Engineering Departments. ARIN is providing these templates well in advance of the conversion, and is encouraging those ISPs that have auto-generated SWIPs to revise those scripts, and submit templates as beta tests. ARIN will solicit beta testers from the community for the new database and templates. Participation will be open to all interested parties. More information about beta testing will soon become available. Regards, Richard Jimmerson Director of Operations American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)