ARIN-PPML Message

ARIN Database and Template Transition

Hello Linda,

I neglected to respond to your second question.

> > Would it be possible to place a link to templates 
> > on the library page?

We will certainly do this once the translations are
complete.

Best Regards,

Richard Jimmerson
Director of Operations
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Jimmerson
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: 'Linda'
> Cc: dbwg at arin.net; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> 
> 
> Hello Linda,
> 
> Thank you for your inquiry.
> 
> > Will the new templates and accompanying instructions be available in
> > Spanish?
> 
> Yes, we have made arrangements to translate the template instructions
> into Spanish.
> 
> Richard Jimmerson
> Director of Operations
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net] On 
> > Behalf Of Linda
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:45 PM
> > To: ARIN DBWG; ARIN PPML
> > Subject: Re: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > 
> > 
> > Will the new templates and accompanying instructions be available in
> > Spanish?  Would it be possible to place a link to templates 
> > on the library
> > page?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Linda Werner
> > 
> > Richard Jimmerson wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Dawn,
> > >
> > > > Is this going to be an agenda item at the next ARIN 
> > meeting? If not,
> > > > can it be put on the agenda?  I would really like to 
> see some more
> > > > discussion from the membership before this is implemented.
> > >
> > > ARIN has been working with its members and the general ARIN user
> > > community for the past year to finalize plans for a new database
> > > schema and templates.  ARIN's last two public policy meetings
> > > (April and October 2001) featured discussions about the new
> > > database schema and templates.  On both occasions, the location
> > > of the templates on the ARIN FTP site was announced and comments
> > > were solicited.
> > >
> > > The templates that are to be released in June are a result of
> > > the feedback received following these two meetings.
> > >
> > > The next ARIN meeting will also feature the new templates, but in
> > > their final form, as part of a tutorial.
> > >
> > > > Has anyone else said anything about this or is it just me?
> > >
> > > Other than your own, ARIN has only received messages indicating
> > > an interest to participate in upcoming beta-testing of the new
> > > database and templates in response to the February 12 announcement
> > > to this list.
> > >
> > > The instructions of two of the new templates have been modified
> > > based on your feedback.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Richard Jimmerson
> > > Director of Operations
> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
> > > > Behalf Of Dawn Martin
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:54 AM
> > > > To: richardj at arin.net
> > > > Cc: ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > > > Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > Is this going to be an agenda item at the next ARIN 
> > meeting? If not,
> > > > can it be
> > > > put on the agenda?  I would really like to see some more 
> > discussion
> > > > from the membership
> > > > before this is implemented. I believe that this might be 
> > more of an
> > > > education
> > > > issue that needs to be addressed rather than changing the 
> > process for
> > > > updating WHOIS.
> > > > Has anyone else said anything about this or is it just me?
> > > >
> > > > Dawn Martin
> > > > dawn.martin at wcom.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dbwg-request at arin.net 
> > [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > Richard Jimmerson
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:19 PM
> > > > To: Dawn.Martin at wcom.com
> > > > Cc: ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > > > Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Dawn,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for taking a close look at the templates and asking
> > > > for clarification.  Please see the responses to your questions
> > > > in-line, below.
> > > >
> > > > >1) Can the wording change for the lines 2 - 19 on the
> > > > >Reassign-detailed to be downstream org....?
> > > >
> > > > In an effort to reduce the length of the labels, the word 
> > "Downstream"
> > > > was not included in each line of the template (lines 2 - 
> > 19).  We can
> > > > expand the comment section of the template to more 
> clearly specify
> > > > that lines 2 - 19 require information about the downstream
> > > > organization.
> > > >
> > > > >2) So now we have 4 templates to deal with instead of 
> 1, how does
> > > > this
> > > > >make my life easier?
> > > >
> > > > I believe you are referring to the following four templates:
> > > >
> > > >  # reallocate -- creates a registration record for a 
> > downstream ISP
> > > >    customer.
> > > >
> > > >  # reassign-detailed -- creates a registration record for 
> > a downstream
> > > >    end-user customer who will maintain their own 
> > in-addr.arpa and POC
> > > >    associations.
> > > >
> > > >  # reassign-simple -- creates a registration record for a 
> > downstream
> > > >    end-user customer who will not maintain their own 
> > in-addr.arpa and
> > > >    contact information.
> > > >
> > > >  # netmod -- may be used by a downstream customer who has 
> > been given
> > > >    the authority by their upstream to maintain their own 
> > in-addr.arpa
> > > >    and/or contact information.
> > > >
> > > > Separate templates were created for reallocations and 
> > reassignments to
> > > > prevent confusion between the two actions that currently 
> > exists with
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > single SWIP template.
> > > >
> > > > reassign-detailed and reassign-simple allow the upstream 
> > to provide
> > > > only
> > > >
> > > > the data that is required, as some reassignments do not 
> > require POC
> > > > and/or in-addr.arpa information different from that of 
> > the upstream.
> > > >
> > > > The new netmod template functions much like that of the 
> > current netmod
> > > > template, but will add the ability of a downstream 
> > customer to modify
> > > > their contact and in-addr.arpa information, if given prior
> > > > authorization
> > > >
> > > > by their upstream.
> > > >
> > > > Some upstream providers will choose to use one or two of 
> > the template
> > > > choices on a regular basis, but will have an option to 
> > use any or all
> > > > of the templates if needed.
> > > >
> > > > >3) Will all assignments now only be on bit boundaries?
> > > >
> > > > Reassignments to the downstream that are not on the bit 
> > boundary will
> > > > be accepted.  Either CIDR notation or range will be accepted.
> > > >
> > > > >4) Except for customers who want their own contact POC 
> > information
> > > > >associated with their WHOIS registration is there any 
> > reason to use
> > > > the
> > > > >detailed template?
> > > >
> > > > The reassign-detailed template would be used if there was 
> > a need for
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > downstream to maintain their own contact or in-addr.arpa 
> > information.
> > > > If
> > > > the downstream does not need to maintain any of this 
> > information, the
> > > > reassign-simple template may be used.
> > > >
> > > > >5) The templates for detailed assignment and
> > > > ARIN-REALLOCATE-3.0-200201
> > > >
> > > > >are the exact same templates except for the template 
> > heading. Can't
> > > > there
> > > > >just be one template with a question on is this an 
> > assignment or an
> > > > >allocation to a "ISP type" customer? This would get rid of one
> > > > template.
> > > >
> > > > In gathering requirements for the new database and 
> > templates it was
> > > > made
> > > >
> > > > clear to ARIN that there was a need to eliminate the 
> > confusion between
> > > > making reassignments and reallocations by separating the 
> > templates.
> > > >
> > > > >6) The netmod template is now part of the SWIP process for any
> > > > customer
> > > >
> > > > >that has an org ID and we need to modify or remove the 
> > registration.
> > > > >And the other "LONG" forms are only for New templates 
> > for customers
> > > > that
> > > > >need POC information associated with them. The short 
> > form is only for
> > > > >customers that do not have POC information associated 
> with them.
> > > > What
> > > > >POC information will be seen on these "shorter" form?
> > > >
> > > > In the case of simple reassignments, the POCs will be 
> whatever is
> > > > associated with the upstream's network, either the 
> > net-tech POC or the
> > > > org-tech POC.
> > > >
> > > > Richard Jimmerson
> > > > Director of Operations
> > > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
> > > > > Behalf Of ginny listman
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:09 PM
> > > > > To: ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > > > > Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From <Dawn.Martin at wcom.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > I need some clarification on a couple of things:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Can the wording change for the lines 2 - 19 on the
> > > > > Reassign-detailed to be downstream
> > > > >    org....?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) So now we have 4 templates to deal with instead of 
> > 1, how does
> > > > this
> > > > > make my
> > > > >    life easier?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) Will all assignments now only be on bit boundaries?
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) Except for customers who want their own contact POC 
> > information
> > > > > associated
> > > > >    with their WHOIS registration is there any reason 
> to use the
> > > > > detailed template?
> > > > >
> > > > > 5) The templates for detailed assignment and
> > > > > ARIN-REALLOCATE-3.0-200201 are the
> > > > >    exact same templates except for the template 
> > heading. Can't there
> > > > > just be one
> > > > >    template with a question on is this an assignment or an
> > > > allocation
> > > > > to a "ISP type"
> > > > >    customer? This would get rid of one template.
> > > > >
> > > > > 6) The netmod template is now part of the SWIP process for any
> > > > > customer that has an
> > > > >    org ID and we need to modify or remove the 
> > registration.  And the
> > > > > other "LONG" forms
> > > > >    are only for New templates for customers that need POC
> > > > information
> > > > > associated with
> > > > >    them. The short form is only for customers that do 
> > not have POC
> > > > > information associated
> > > > >    with them.  What POC information will be seen on 
> > these "shorter"
> > > > > form?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Dawn Martin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > 
> #####################################################################
> > > > > 1. Registration Action:
> > > > >         ## Specify N for New, M for Modify or R for 
> > Return/Remove.
> > > > >         ## **REQUIRED**
> > > > > 2. Network Name:
> > > > >         ## List a network name to identify the 
> > reassigned network,
> > > > >         ## using no more than 50 characters. **REQUIRED**
> > > > > 3. IP Address and Prefix or Range:
> > > > >         ## Identify the network being assigned using either IP
> > > > address
> > > > >         ## and CIDR prefix, e.g. 10.1.0.0/19, or IP 
> > address range,
> > > > >         ## e.g. 10.1.0.0 - 10.1.31.255. **REQUIRED**
> > > > > 4. Customer Name:
> > > > > 5a. Customer Address:
> > > > > 5b. Customer Address:
> > > > >         ## Use as many Customer Address lines as needed 
> > to specify
> > > > >         ## street address, using no more than 200 total 
> > characters.
> > > > > 6. Customer City:
> > > > > 7. Customer State/Province:
> > > > > 8. Customer Postal Code:
> > > > > 9. Customer Country Code:
> > > > > 10. Public Comments:
> > > > >         ## Comments listed here will appear in ARIN's WHOIS
> > > > database.
> > > > >
> > > > > END OF TEMPLATE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dawn Martin
> > > > > WorldCom IP Planning Analyst
> > > > > dawn.martin at wcom.com
> > > > > (703)886-4746
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-arin-announce at arin.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-arin-announce at arin.net]On Behalf Of 
> > Richard Jimmerson
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:08 PM
> > > > > To: arin-announce at arin.net; ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > > > > Subject: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ARIN will transition to a new database and templates in
> > > > > June of 2002.
> > > > >
> > > > > Over the past year, ARIN has developed requirements for the
> > > > > new database with input from members of the ARIN user 
> community
> > > > > at ARIN meetings and on the DB Working Group mailing list,
> > > > > dbwg at arin.net.
> > > > >
> > > > > A training program describing the new database and 
> templates is
> > > > > currently under development.  This training program 
> > will be offered
> > > > > in person at the upcoming ARIN meeting in April, and 
> on-line for
> > > > > those who are unable to attend the meeting.  Training 
> will focus
> > > > > primarily on the new objects of the ARIN database and 
> the newly
> > > > > designed templates.  The newly designed templates are 
> available
> > > > > now at:
> > > > >
> > > >   ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/new-templates/
> > > >
> > > > The templates incorporate the comments submitted via the 
> > DB Working
> > > > Group with the efforts of Registration Services and Engineering
> > > > Departments.  ARIN is providing these templates well in 
> advance of
> > > > the conversion, and is encouraging those ISPs that have 
> > auto-generated
> > > > SWIPs to revise those scripts, and submit templates as 
> beta tests.
> > > >
> > > > ARIN will solicit beta testers from the community for the 
> > new database
> > > > and templates.  Participation will be open to all 
> > interested parties.
> > > > More information about beta testing will soon become available.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Richard Jimmerson
> > > > Director of Operations
> > > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > > >
> > > >
> > 
>