From kkriegel at cyberlynk.net Tue Aug 11 15:41:21 2015 From: kkriegel at cyberlynk.net (Kerry L. Kriegel) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:41:21 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] Hosting someone else's ASN and subnet. Message-ID: <0d8001d0d46d$b2f181c0$18d48540$@cyberlynk.net> Hello All, We are an ISP with primary locations in in Milwaukee, WI and Phoenix, AZ. We have a couple ASN's (one at each location) and lots of subnets. We are peering with 5 providers via 2 edge devices in Milwaukee. My problem is that we have a customer, in our Milwaukee datacenter, that has been assigned an ASN and network from ARIN, and wants us to host it so he can use his own addresses. AS3XXXX 142.XXX.YYY.ZZZ/24 I have been setting up peering with my own ASN and networks for many, many years. Setting up peering using someone else's ARIN assignments is totally foreign to me. It is not something I have ever done. 1. What, if any, procedures need to be carried out with ARIN so that I can host someone else's ASN? 2. What, if any, special procedures need to be carried out with my peers? 3. What, if any, special considerations need to be done? Let me know if you need any additional information. Thank you, Kerry L. Kriegel Network Operations Engineer Cyberlynk Network, Inc. Office: 414-858-9335 Fax: 414-858-9336 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elevitt at endstream.com Tue Aug 11 15:45:23 2015 From: elevitt at endstream.com (Erik B Levitt) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:45:23 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] Hosting someone else's ASN and subnet. In-Reply-To: <0d8001d0d46d$b2f181c0$18d48540$@cyberlynk.net> References: <0d8001d0d46d$b2f181c0$18d48540$@cyberlynk.net> Message-ID: <6246470C-1A5A-4221-88E0-1BE96CF1F684@1pcom.com> It's more a matter of getting LOAs from them to give to your up streams so they will allow the IP address block through their prefix lists and advertise the ASN. >From ARIN's perspective they are just downstream of you. We do it all the time, it's quite standard. Erik On Aug 11, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Kerry L. Kriegel > wrote: Hello All, We are an ISP with primary locations in in Milwaukee, WI and Phoenix, AZ. We have a couple ASN?s (one at each location) and lots of subnets. We are peering with 5 providers via 2 edge devices in Milwaukee. My problem is that we have a customer, in our Milwaukee datacenter, that has been assigned an ASN and network from ARIN, and wants us to host it so he can use his own addresses. AS3XXXX 142.XXX.YYY.ZZZ/24 I have been setting up peering with my own ASN and networks for many, many years. Setting up peering using someone else?s ARIN assignments is totally foreign to me. It is not something I have ever done. 1. What, if any, procedures need to be carried out with ARIN so that I can host someone else?s ASN? 2. What, if any, special procedures need to be carried out with my peers? 3. What, if any, special considerations need to be done? Let me know if you need any additional information. Thank you, Kerry L. Kriegel Network Operations Engineer Cyberlynk Network, Inc. Office: 414-858-9335 Fax: 414-858-9336 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From casey.strom at nwvox.com Tue Aug 11 15:49:39 2015 From: casey.strom at nwvox.com (Casey Strom) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:49:39 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] Hosting someone else's ASN and subnet. In-Reply-To: <0d8001d0d46d$b2f181c0$18d48540$@cyberlynk.net> References: <0d8001d0d46d$b2f181c0$18d48540$@cyberlynk.net> Message-ID: We see this a lot. I don't believe ARIN needs anything special for this. Get a letter of authorization that states that your organization is allowed to route the IPs for this customer. Just a contract as simple as "I, Customer Representative, authorize Cyberlynk to route the following IP space for ACME Corporation until 1/1/2020" (List IP spaces below and get the proper signature from the ARIN admin for the block). To ensure everything is cleared in the upstream filters, don't forget to have the proper objects in RADb. Considerations: Standard considerations for ensuring that they are not violating your terms of service or your peers terms of service. -Thanks! Casey B. Strom Northwest Vox Direct (US): 425-563-7255 Direct (CA): 778-588-5305 Fax: 877-208-9720 *One Call. Infinite Possibilities.* Customer Service: 877-208-9710 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Kerry L. Kriegel wrote: > Hello All, > > > > We are an ISP with primary locations in in Milwaukee, WI and Phoenix, AZ. > We have a couple ASN?s (one at each location) and lots of subnets. > > > > We are peering with 5 providers via 2 edge devices in Milwaukee. > > > > My problem is that we have a customer, in our Milwaukee datacenter, that > has been assigned an ASN and network from ARIN, and wants us to host it so > he can use his own addresses. > > > > AS3XXXX > > 142.XXX.YYY.ZZZ/24 > > > > I have been setting up peering with my own ASN and networks for many, many > years. Setting up peering using someone else?s ARIN assignments is totally > foreign to me. > > It is not something I have ever done. > > > > 1. What, if any, procedures need to be carried out with ARIN so that I > can host someone else?s ASN? > > 2. What, if any, special procedures need to be carried out with my > peers? > > 3. What, if any, special considerations need to be done? > > > > Let me know if you need any additional information. > > > > Thank you, > > > > *Kerry L. Kriegel* > > Network Operations Engineer > > Cyberlynk Network, Inc. > > Office: 414-858-9335 > > Fax: 414-858-9336 > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-Discuss > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkriegel at cyberlynk.net Tue Aug 11 16:38:26 2015 From: kkriegel at cyberlynk.net (Kerry L. Kriegel) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:38:26 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] Hosting someone else's ASN and subnet. In-Reply-To: <6E88F908-DCA3-4913-8C79-AEBEE0A9D2D0@corp.crocker.com> References: <0d8001d0d46d$b2f181c0$18d48540$@cyberlynk.net> <6E88F908-DCA3-4913-8C79-AEBEE0A9D2D0@corp.crocker.com> Message-ID: <0dc001d0d475$ac6bea40$0543bec0$@cyberlynk.net> Thank you all for the input. I was unsure if ARIN would need any ?paperwork? from the customer. We will generate a LOA and be off and running. Thank you, Kerry L. Kriegel Network Operations Engineer Cyberlynk Network, Inc. Office: 414-858-9335 Fax: 414-858-9336 From: Matthew Crocker [mailto:matthew at corp.crocker.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:27 PM To: Kerry L. Kriegel Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; Adam Hobach Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Hosting someone else's ASN and subnet. We do this all the time, announce the /24 from your router using your ASN or prepend their ASN onto the path. I try to get the customers to enter & maintain an radDB entry and get an LOA to send to my upstreams. -Matt ? Matthew Crocker President - Crocker Communications, Inc. Managing Partner - Crocker Telecommunications, LLC E: matthew at corp.crocker.com E: matthew at crocker.com On Aug 11, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Kerry L. Kriegel > wrote: Hello All, We are an ISP with primary locations in in Milwaukee, WI and Phoenix, AZ. We have a couple ASN?s (one at each location) and lots of subnets. We are peering with 5 providers via 2 edge devices in Milwaukee. My problem is that we have a customer, in our Milwaukee datacenter, that has been assigned an ASN and network from ARIN, and wants us to host it so he can use his own addresses. AS3XXXX 142.XXX.YYY.ZZZ/24 I have been setting up peering with my own ASN and networks for many, many years. Setting up peering using someone else?s ARIN assignments is totally foreign to me. It is not something I have ever done. 1. What, if any, procedures need to be carried out with ARIN so that I can host someone else?s ASN? 2. What, if any, special procedures need to be carried out with my peers? 3. What, if any, special considerations need to be done? Let me know if you need any additional information. Thank you, Kerry L. Kriegel Network Operations Engineer Cyberlynk Network, Inc. Office: 414-858-9335 Fax: 414-858-9336 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List ( ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: