[arin-discuss] ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations

Jesse D. Geddis jesse at la-broadband.com
Tue Jan 15 16:53:24 EST 2013


Brent,

Your saying you want to increase  participation by giving single people more votes. I'm not sure how that accomplishes that goal on any level. 

Jesse Geddis
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On Jan 15, 2013, at 1:41 PM, "Brent Sweeny" <sweeny at indiana.edu> wrote:

> yes, certainly the DMR is an instance of an org designating someone to
> vote.  What I was trying to accomplish with my suggestion was in the
> spirit of  what I thought was Owen's good suggestion that by expanding
> the number of people who *could* represent an org in their votes, we
> could (probably) increase participation.
> Yes, of course some elections don't rise to the level of interest or
> hot-button issues that motivate more voting; so as elsewhere, the people
> who *do* vote influence the direction ARIN takes, and the orgs who
> didn't vote can't complain.  But generally it still seems (to me) that a
> higher level of participation, especially to the extent that it's
> representative of the diverse membership, is a Good Thing.
>    brent
> 
> On 1/15/2013 11:30 AM, Jim Dolan Jr wrote:
>> Brent, is that not basically what the DMR role is, a designated rep of an org. I may be mistaken but a DMR can be changed at any point. 
>> 
>> Also as for the group of 10 to 15 percent of orgs that do not have a DMR that is a choice the respective org makes. They can set one up if they wanted to, just as they could set up a tech POC. 
>> 
>> I have voted in the past and I have not voted in other arin elections. Some years candidates or issues matter to me or my company, while in other years it does not. 
>> 
>> Long way of saying making more people able to vote does not increase participation. I am not in favor of this change. In fact one way to look at a 10 percent voting participation may be that 90 percent are content with how arin is, and do not feel the need to vote to change anything.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 12:40 PM, "Brent Sweeny" <sweeny at indiana.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> I applaud the goal of increasing participation in ARIN elections (and am
>>> also curious about the participation rate of DMRs from the 87% of orgs
>>> who have DMRs--among all the other statistics given, that one would have
>>> been very useful and was prominently absent), but I agree with what I
>>> think is the set of objections to the new proposal for what appears to
>>> be a sort of uncoordinated ad-hoc voting method open to
>>> intra-organization conflict.
>>> How about if the org's admin POC(s) pre-designated a subset of the org's
>>> POCs, either admin or tech, as 'candidate' voters, among whom any of
>>> them could cast the org's vote? would that, perhaps, meet the objective
>>> and help meet the concerns of objectors? just a thought.
>>> 
>>> Brent Sweeny, Indiana University
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