[arin-discuss] ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Tue Jan 15 14:29:36 EST 2013


I think it would be useful to allow organizations without a DMR (or whose
DMR doesn't vote) the chance for their votes to be counted, but I share
Owen's concern about creating a race condition.

I like Matthew's approach.  A similar approach might be to only allow the
DMR to vote if a DMR has been designated, but allow any POC to vote if the
organization chooses not to designate a DMR.

-Scott


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Matthew Wilder
<Matthew.Wilder at telus.com>wrote:

> I share the same concern as Owen.  Perhaps one way of recognizing the
> current structure and delegated power of the DMRs within active
> organizations is to allow votes from any POC while explicitly noting that
> DMR trumps if they participate.  This seems to be an easy best-of-both
> worlds compromise.  In other words, if the DMR is active and votes, their
> vote represents their OrgID.  If they don't vote, it goes to any POC who
> took the time to vote.
>
> Matthew
>
> On Tues, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> > I oppose the change.
> >
> > It would create ambiguity and a race condition where an organization
> would have to apply additional management constraints on who was a
> designated POC in order to prevent the possibility of vote tampering.
> >
> > I would support allowing the admin contact to radio-button the DMR in
> the ARIN-ONLINE interface.
> >
> > Owen
> >
> > On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> >
> > > ARIN is seeking feedback from its membership about changing voting
> > > eligibility so that any ARIN web account linked to an Admin and/or
> > > Tech POC of a Member organization may cast the ballot for the
> > > organization's one vote in ARIN elections. This change would replace
> > > the Designated Member Representative (DMR) role in the ARIN elections
> > > and allow organizations to have more that one eligible voter.  There
> > > is no change to the one vote per Organization ID rule.
> > > We are suggesting this change in order to increase participation in
> > > ARIN elections. This change would:
> > >
> > >    * Allow organizations to have more than one eligible voter, thereby
> > > increasing the chances that someone would be available to cast a
> > > ballot
> > >
> > >    *  Eliminate the need for Members to create and update the DMR POC
> > > with its specialized email requirements
> > >
> > >     Note: The benefit of allowing more than one individual the ability
> > > to cast the organization's one vote may in some cases require internal
> > > coordination to determine who will cast the vote. If a second
> > > individual attempts to vote, they will receive notification that their
> > > organization has already voted and they will not be able to cast a
> ballot.
> > >
> > > ARIN is seeking input from the community regarding this potential
> > > change, including whether it would be beneficial and if made, whether
> > > voting eligibility should be provided to Admin POCs or Admin and Tech
> POCs.
> > > You can read background on ARIN's existing processes of DMRs at:
> > >
> > > https://www.arin.net/about_us/membership/dmr.html
> > >
> > > You can read about ARIN's current Board and Advisory Council Election
> > > voting process at:
> > >
> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/elections/elec_procedures.html#voting
> > >
> > > Relevant Statistics:
> > >
> > >     89% of ARIN Members currently have a web account linked to either
> > > their Admin or Tech POC handle.
> > >
> > >     85%  of ARIN Members currently have a web account linked to their
> > > Admin POC handle.
> > >
> > >     In the 2012 elections 87% of Member organizations had a DMR that
> > > was eligible to vote.
> > >
> > > Please provide comments to arin-discuss at arin.net.
> > >
> > > Discussion will close on 12 February 2013. ARIN seeks clear direction
> > > from its members, so your feedback is important. If you have any
> > > questions, please contact us at info at arin.net.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Communications and Member Services
> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > >
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