[arin-discuss] urgency of IPv6

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Mon Jun 28 12:24:10 EDT 2010



On 6/25/2010 10:52 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 6/25/2010 11:38 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Ted Mittelstaedt<tedm at ipinc.net>
>>>> To: arin-discuss at arin.net
>>>> Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 3:19:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] urgency of IPv6
>>>>
>>>> In the US the ISP
>>>> market is at saturation, it has
>>>> matured and nobody is really
>>>> growing unless someone else is shrinking.
>>>
>>> The Caribbean is growing at a good pace.
>>> See also any statistics about growth, and make sure
>>> to include devices with IP capabilities (handhelds,
>>> consoles, etc.).
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can easily imagine a scenario where the rest of the
>>>> world ends up moving to IPv6 and sells it's IPv4 back to ISP's in
>>>> the US via the transfer market.
>>>
>>> Potential transfer recipients in the US will be
>>> competing against potential recipients within the
>>> region of origin.
>>>
>>>> Internet experience
>>>> consists mainly of accessing Hulu, Ebay, and CNN,
>>>> since clearly
>>>> the content providers are going to be the very last ones
>>>> to go to IPv6-only.
>>>
>>> I believe Hulu is owned by NBC Universal, in process
>>> of being acquired by Comcast, which is deploying IPv6.
>>> "The public-facing eBay Web site will be upgraded for what's called
>>> dual-stack IPv4 and IPv6 access in 2011.
>>> "
>>> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/020410-ipv6-web-sites.html?page=1
>>> CNN is served by a CDN, so it will be available when the CDN is.
>>>
>>> It is not clear that content providers will be last.  There
>>> are good reasons for content providers to prefer IPv6 over
>>> the alternatives.
>>>
>>
>> If the content providers are getting any money for providing
>> content (ie: advertising revenue) then they will definitely be
>> last to drop IPv4.
>>
> Who cares... Dropping IPv4 is irrelevant. What counts is when
> they add IPv6.

Why?  If I'm a customer with IPv4 and my content provider of
choice adds IPv6 without ANY additional content, why would I
want to spend the money to upgrade my stuff to get the same
thing over IPv6?

Ted



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