[arin-discuss] Policy clarification

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Mon Jun 28 11:44:13 EDT 2010


This is the first time you mentioned an allocation as large as a /23
in conjunction with this "circumventation "the Great Firewall of China" 
project"  Is that project intending to use a /23?  You know
you can get an -authoritative- reading by e-mailing the specific details
of this project to "hostmaster at arin.net" and by posting here you also
know you want opinions in response.  And as for throwing in all of the
"political issue on government level" rubbish in your original post,
it seems evident that your just trolling here.

As I privately explained to you and as others explained, this scheme
isn't going to represent a significant problem for the Chinese admins
to block.  You have ignored those comments and are just attempting to
stir the pot, more evidence of trolling.

As for Aaron's comment, the definition of "technical uses" is 
subjective, so at face value his black-and-white statement is wrong,
anyone can see that who has read the NRPM or gone through an address
block request.  Is your goal to throw out random statements until
you get someone making a short, incorrect one-liner like Aaron then
sit back and watch the firefight?  That's trolling.

If you have something to say about ARIN, then say it.  If this 
circumvention project is real, then post the specific details,
how many addresses is it going to use, what platform, etc.  It is
a fact that not much gear out there will terminate 500 -simultaneous-
VPN sessions without rolling over and dying, not to mention pass
multiple megabits per sec. of data over all 500 of them simultaneously. 
  And who has the bandwidth for that?  Not many.
The more comments you make about this "circumvention" project
the more obvious it is technically impractical, thus non-existent.


Ted

On 6/25/2010 2:04 PM, IPTelligent SysOp wrote:
> Aaron,
>
> Then I wonder why, last time I requested a second address block for the
> company, I was asked for technical justification for all the reassigned
> and reallocated blocks that were equal to or higher than a /24, based
> exactly on SWIP information? Don't remember the exact words now, but I
> was asked "Why did you allocate a /23 to company X, what was the
> justification they provided" and how much equipment is connected to
> that block, how many hosts, how many shared webhosting, how many etc,
> what are the reverse hostnames for each of those IPs?
> Isn't that technical use justification, or it's just for statistics
> (and then why not mention it's optional)?
> For a customer that I had reassigned space from the carrier (and so I
> couldn't reallocate to the end user), I had to submit a long customer
> list with the subnetting that was made, per customer (not much work as
> the customer collaborated to it, but then, I had to reformat all the
> list). Would it be completely unnecessary?
> Regards,
> Rafael
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Aaron Wendel"<aaron at wholesaleinternet.net>
> To: "IPTelligent SysOp"<sysop at iptelligent.com>;arin-discuss at arin.net
> Sent: 6/25/2010 5:52:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [arin-discuss] Policy clarification
>> ARIN does not specify technical uses for IP address space.
>
>
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