[arin-discuss] fee waivers

Brian Johnson bjohnson at drtel.com
Tue Jun 22 21:13:22 EDT 2010


Aaron,

So maybe this is my misunderstanding, but I thought the fee was the same
for the IPv6 as it is for IPv4 space... In fact it is
(https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html). How do you only pay $100
when you have an allocation and the minimum charge for an allocation is
$1250/yr?

Is there a special way I can have my allocations for $100/yr. Where do I
sign up? :) 

- Brian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Wendel [mailto:aaron at wholesaleinternet.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:54 PM
> To: Brian Johnson; arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [arin-discuss] fee waivers
> 
> We do.  Got it a couple years ago when we first started up.  A member
> paid
> the initial fee then as well and I pull the $100 out of my pocket
every
> year
> to pay the ongoing ARIN Fees.
> 
> Again, this isn't about my situation specifically.  My bill is paid.
> This
> is about a barrier to entry for other end users that may not be able
or
> willing to pony up for a v6 allocation that they don't see as "mission
> critical" at this point.
> 
> Whether they should or not is another debate but I really feel that we
> need
> to look at any and all barriers to entry on the v6 side and see what
we
> can
> do to make it, if not a zero-sum game then at least less painful.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
> bounces at arin.net]
> On Behalf Of Brian Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:31 PM
> To: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] fee waivers
> 
> Do you have IPv4 space now? How are/were you paying that fee?
> 
> 
> - Brian
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
> > bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:46 PM
> > To: arin-discuss at arin.net
> > Subject: [arin-discuss] fee waivers
> >
> > As the operator of a small, free exchange point I was recently hit
> with
> > the
> > $1250 fee for an IPv6 allocation.  After several go arounds with our
> > members
> > one of them stepped up to the plate and generously donated the fee
to
> > cover
> > it.  (Thanks HE!)
> >
> > It made me think though.  Without this help we would not have gone
v6
> > or we
> > would have had to implement some work around: space from a member,
> > private
> > space, etc. that wouldn't have been optimum and may have been such a
> > hassle
> > we would have just abandoned it.
> >
> > It seems to me that it would be a good idea to extend the fee waiver
> > ISPs
> > receive to end users for a time, on the current sliding scale, to
> > encourage
> > adoption of v6 by everyone, not just ISPs.  My fee has already been
> > paid but
> > if we're really trying to push adoption, incentives should be
applied
> > to
> > everyone on the same plane and not just a single "class".
> >
> > Aaron
> > Kcix.net
> >
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