[arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping
Aaron Wendel
aaron at wholesaleinternet.com
Tue May 13 13:09:33 EDT 2008
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Why is it always about SPAM? Let me give you some other real examples: Customer A rents a server for his Clan. Clan A. It's not a business so his personal information with his home address gets put in the SWIP. Clan B gets ticked off at Clan A and sends someone over to the address in the SWIP (since the domain was private) and threatens his life in front of his family. VERY angry customer calls me the next day demanding his info be removed and threatening to sue for breach of privacy. Customer B runs a political forum. User A doesn't like what Customer B posts so he starts sending death threats to Customer B's wife. Domain is private but there's actually a mistake in the SWIP info that shows up on the address which makes it easy to figure out where User A got his info. Customer B's wife is hysterical which causes Customer B to be very angry with me. I tried to tell both of these guys that I HAVE to do it because otherwise I can't get new IPs and it HAS to be right because, after all, they might be spammers but it just didn't fly. Both of these examples really happened. We lost both customers and the police had to get involved. One other question for everyone out there that's sort of related, How do you reconcile posting customer information in a public database with your privacy policy? Aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I guess what I would really like to know is what is so secretive and what is it exactly that these entities have to protect in terms of privacy that motivates them to not want their address listed? I'd really prefer it if the SWIP address remained visible, as should all domain addresses be IMO. But I, like the vast majority end up doing all we can to bend enough for a customer to get and or keep that customer. The alternative, I've suggested customers that do not want to give out their name/address use a PO box. Most companies have a PO separate from their business/mailing address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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