[arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping

[Jeremy Anthony Kinsey]

On May 13, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Paul Vixie wrote:

>>> while i'm talking mostly about e-mail addresses here, the  
>>> arguments extend
>>> to phone numbers and postal addresses.  those of us who use small
>>> variations in our postal contact information can tell who bought or
>>> scraped our address and from where.  whois trust just does not  
>>> scale.
>>
>> I understand your point, but the double edge sword here is, that  
>> the lack of
>> the valid information is just as detrimental since many of us use  
>> it to
>> track down just such issues as you have described.  It makes it  
>> easier for
>> those of us that have actual human beings hunting down either spam  
>> and or
>> network related issues.
>
> yes it does.  which is why i'm proposing a solution.
>
>> We had our network hyjacked by a larger telecommunications company  
>> a few
>> years back. Without that information, we never would have been able  
>> to get
>> an actual human being to fix the routing screw up.
>
> i imagine that the RIR, or RIR system, who sits between you and that  
> company,
> could have passed your request in real time to the right person,  
> without also
> publishing that right person's contact details in a place where  
> spammers,
> either well intentioned ones like spamcop, or the evil kind, can see  
> it.
>
Ah, actually the SWIP contact info was the only way, and the last  
resort.  Even their own information on their corporate web site did  
not get us anywhere.

Regards,
Jeremy Anthony Kinsey
  e-mail: jer at mia.net
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