[arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping

[Jeremy Anthony Kinsey]

On May 12, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
>> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Paul Vixie
>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:58 AM
>> To: jlewis at atlantic.net
>> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping
>>
>>> As far as contacing customers via whois lookup, is there some reason
>> the
>>> ISP can't act as an agent for the customer?  This is sort of like  
>>> the
>>> various domain whois privacy services...but not nearly as slimely
>> IMO.
>>
>> as far as that goes, is there general support here for the idea of  
>> the
>> RIRs
>> running mail forwarders for well-formatted non-robotic abuse  
>> complaints
>> that
>> can be forwarded to the registered operator of the netblock, without
>> exposing
>> the operator's internal ticket system e-mail address via whois?
>
> I would even support all of the RIR's being able to accept and  
> forward requests for their Members to other RIR's Members and then  
> on locally.  So, an APNIC Member has an abuse complaint against me  
> and they contact abuse at apnic which gets forwarded to abuse at arin and  
> then to abuse at adhost (or allow for direct proxying so that  
> abuse at apnic comes directly to me).
>

I guess what I would really like to know is what is so secretive and  
what is it exactly that these entities have to protect in terms of  
privacy that motivates them to not want their address listed?
I'd really prefer it if the SWIP address remained visible, as should  
all domain addresses be IMO.   But I, like the vast majority end up  
doing all we can to bend enough for a customer to get and or keep that  
customer.  The alternative, I've suggested customers that do not want  
to give out their name/address use a PO box.  Most companies have a PO  
separate from their business/mailing address.

Regards,
Jeremy Anthony Kinsey
  e-mail: jer at mia.net
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