[arin-discuss] No quorum in last election(More gas{high octane} for the flame war)

Alvin Starr alvin at Iplink.net
Tue Feb 5 12:32:44 EST 2008


*From wikipedia.

Abstention* is a term in election 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election> procedure for when a participant 
in a vote either does not go to vote (on election day) or, in 
parliamentary procedure 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_procedure>, is present 
during the vote, but does not cast a ballot. Abstention must be 
contrasted with "blank vote <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_vote>", 
in which a participant in a vote cast a deliberately unlegitimate vote 
(drawing pictures on the ballot, etc.) or in which he simply casts a 
blank vote: a "blank (or white) voter" has voted, although his vote may 
be considered a spoilt vote <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoilt_vote>, 
depending on each legislation, while an abstentionnist hasn't voted. 
Both forms (abstention and blank vote) may or may not, depending on the 
circumstances, be considered as protest vote 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_vote>.


I did not vote. Ergo. I abstained.
All those like me also abstained.

I am not sure how many others there are like me out there so I will not 
comment on the majorities opinion or reasons.
I did not vote because I am more or less happy with the job ARIN does.
I watch from the side lines and since I do not have any active 
participation I cannot make an informed decision about who to vote for 
so I do not vote.
I could throw darts at the ballot and pick that way but that seems a 
little silly to me.
In life we all must pick the things we will be active in and the things 
we will be passive in.
At times those decisions and reasons change but while I am passive in 
ARIN I will not be voting.
So I abstain.

There can be no such thing as an abstain ballot.
The concept of an abstain ballot could be best called an oxymoron.
Much like sort of pregnant or true lies.
Wonderful titles for comedies but silly concepts.

This whole thread has become a farce and makes me think of the "FOOD 
FIGHT" seen in Animal house.
In this case it should be more like "FLAME WAR".



Dean Anderson wrote:
> The proof is in the meeting. Only the ballots represent members.  There
> were no abstain ballots to be cited as representing members. If there
> were abstain ballots, they should have been counted. But there were no
> such ballots.  The issue is a question of fact, not law.
>
> 		--Dean
>
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, J Bacher wrote:
>
>   
>> Dean Anderson wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> The entire membership _can_ certainly participate by electronic ballot.  
>>> But it is not the case that they did participate.  Participation by
>>> electronic ballot requires a ballot to be received by ARIN.  Where are 
>>> these ballots indicating "abstain"?
>>>       
>> Where is your legal proof that identifies abstention as requiring active
>> participation?
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