[arin-discuss] Fwd: Legacy RSA

Sorry, my first swipe at this was hitting the reply button. Forgot it  
didn't just reply to the list. Below is what I sent to Ted.

Terri Kelley
Network Engineer



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Terri Kelley <neteng at farm-market.net>
> Date: November 9, 2007 9:39:52 PM CST
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
>
> Ted,
>
> Thanks for the note. Yes I am new to ARIN. We are a small ISP  
> coming from a single homed situation to multihomed which puts us  
> into the ARIN area. So this is my first into this arena where  
> before in my career I have always had an upstream provider that  
> dealt with these issues.
>
> While ARIN's biggest thing might be assignment of IP addresses I  
> would think that it still plays a part in the overall picture. Kind  
> of like business, there are us tech guys and there are the sales  
> guys. Both have to communicate or you end up with a mess. So each  
> plays a part and while I have no desire to be sales it is important  
> that the tech part has input. Might be a bad analogy but this late  
> it is the best I could come up with. Even so, often it is us tech  
> guys who get to deal with ARIN directly especially in small business.
>
> As far as questions, not yet. I have been swamped in this cutover  
> and need to do some reading. Have to look up NANOG and IETF and  
> learn more about them.
>
>
> Terri Kelley
> Network Engineer
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>> Terri,
>>
>>   ARIN is rather constrained from quite a number of technical  
>> arenas.  It's not in it's
>> charter to interfere with routing on the backbone which is where  
>> most of the pure
>> tech is.  The biggest thing that ARIN does - assignment of IP  
>> addresses - is not
>> as much of a technical function as it is a business/administrative/ 
>> political function that is
>> being driven by the technologists on NANOG and in IETF and what  
>> they want on
>> the Internet.
>>
>>   With that said, one of the best ways to get rid of a stinky  
>> thread on a mailing
>> list is to replace it with a more interesting one.  You said your  
>> new to the list, are
>> you new to ARIN?  Are there any questions you have as to it's  
>> operation that
>> might be good topics for discussion here?
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss- 
>> bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Terri Kelley
>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:36 PM
>> To: ARIN-discuss at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
>>
>> I second what Steve has said here.
>>
>> I am also new to the list and I am a tech guy not a politician and  
>> have no desire
>> to be one. This one discussion if you will has come close to  
>> creating a arin spam
>> folder or just removing myself.
>>
>> There is probably a need for this type of thing but like Steve, I  
>> think a "politics"
>> list would be very appropriate. I would still like to see the arin  
>> info that is sent
>> out here but if it involves politics then anyone wanting to  
>> respond should go to
>> the politics discussion to debate it out. So both groups would be  
>> served and
>> neither would be left out of the loop.
>>
>> Terri Kelley
>> Farm to Market Broadband
>> Network Engineer
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>>
>>> I can understand why so many people want to leave the list. I am a
>>> newcomer, attempting to become somewhat of a good 'net citizen in
>>> regards to appropriate use of my resources, and to generally gain
>>> knowledge so I can be a respectable piece of the Internet's next  
>>> generation.
>>>
>>> I'm thankful that I'm an operator and not a politician. The only  
>>> time
>>> I've ever known anyone to have so much time to dig up dirt on  
>>> others is
>>> in politics. What a waste of production time.
>>>
>>> As it has already been pointed out, Section 9.2 of the Member  
>>> Mailing
>>> List AUP is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#nine2
>>>
>>> If anything, for sanity sakes, at least propose a solution to  
>>> what you
>>> think is wrong instead of a blanket 'get rid of the board and the  
>>> AC'
>>> with a boat load of crap to go with it.
>>>
>>> Whether someone is a criminal, has been accused of being a  
>>> criminal or
>>> was a criminal, if they can adequately suit the needs of the  
>>> people they
>>> are serving, why judge them on that. Cast the first stone.
>>>
>>> It is claimed that ARIN is wasting money because there is no  
>>> benefit to
>>> the community they serve (WRT spending on travel for trade shows).
>>> However, there has been no documentation to the contrary that states
>>> their spending on attendance to these trade shows has had a negative
>>> impact either.
>>>
>>> My .02. I don't care anymore. I thought that monitoring these lists
>>> would actually provide some benefit to myself, the organization  
>>> that I
>>> work for and most importantly the continuance of decent policy  
>>> into the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> On a side, but related note, if IP related policy is ever  
>>> proposed that
>>> does not involve those who have at least some operational/ 
>>> engineering
>>> relevance, than I oppose of it right off the hop.
>>>
>>> I propose a policy that moves political discussion and  
>>> accusations that
>>> have nothing to do with the basic fundamentals ARIN represents to
>>> something like:
>>>
>>> arin-politics at arin.net
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
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