[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
Dean Anderson
dean at av8.com
Fri Nov 9 14:16:34 EST 2007
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, John Curran wrote: > >Did this $50,000 gift to NANOG benefit the ARIN membership in advancing the purposes of ARIN by > >$50,000? No. It didn't. > > Dean - > > The ARIN contribution to NANOG pays for the audio/video > recording of the NANOG meetings and real-time distribution > which allows for community remote participation (and one > hopes an improved awareness of operational matters such > as real-world routing table issues, etc.) There are three > meetings annually, and both staff and equipment costs to > be covered to make this happen. This describes _NANOG_ activites, not ARIN educational outreach. Merit should fund Nanog activities, not ARIN. NANOG has apparently been unable to get community support for its funding, apparently for very good reason. NANOG cronies are using ARIN improperly to fund and support NANOG. This support for NANOG is improper. Evidence has already been given that NANOG isn't really concerned about "real-world routing issues", but is instead promoting the private business interests of the 50 or so core participants, who include ARIN Board Members. These business interests include (but aren't limited to) stateful anycast promotion, promotion of illegal email access, and promotion of anti-spam operations against competitors of their spam business. This is probably why NANOG can't obtain its own funds, properly. The minutes also have a reference "Due to Merit's requirements for the contribution," What were Merit's requirements for contribution? > This was moved in the 10 Jan 2004 Board meeting and > passed with Mr. Woodcock abstaining. Mr. Vixie was not > a member of the ARIN Board at that time. Minutes of > all the ARIN Board meetings are available online at > <http://www.arin.net/meetings/minutes/bot/> The Jan 10 minutes show that the motion was made by Ray Plzak and seconded by David Conrad. I note that David Conrad shares office space with Paul Vixie, and also participates in NANOG. Conrad is conflicted. Manning was absent from the meeting, but is conflicted. Curran is conflicted. All these people are closely connected to Vixie, who is reasonably suspected of ties to organized crime because of the TRO. I don't know about Plzak, yet. Also, The IESG was discovered to have a policy where conflicted members participate in discussions, but "abstain from voting". This is not recusal, which requires no participation. Did Mr. Woodcock actually recuse himself? Or did he merely not vote while participating in the discussion and influencing the decision? Same question for Mr. Manning, who was not present for the vote? > I'd like to thank you for your concern on this matter, > but do not believe that there is an actual issue to be > addressed. I notice the Jan 10 agenda has this issue buried in the part on "Discussion of Indemnification". As hard as you are trying to sweep this under the table, I'm not convinced. I smell smoke and I'd like to put out the fire.... We still have 4 conflicted Board Members and no ARIN educational benefit. --Dean -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000
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