[arin-discuss] ARIN Travel

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:rs at seastrom.com]
>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:55 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: John Curran; G.Hiscott; arin-discuss at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Travel
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>"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> writes:
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>> I actually think that right now ARIN should be working more on
>> visiting shows that the major networks would have staff attending.
>> There are still a great many transit providers out there who
>> are not routing IPv6 at the current time.  There is no point in
>> getting the customer base stirred up and demanding IPv6 when
>> it's not available from their network provider, they will just
>> lose interest in it.
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>Actually, it is quite the opposite.  Providers who survived the bubble
>bursting have learned their lesson about the "if you build it they
>will come" mentality; they're only setting up network resources in
>direct response to customer demands.

I figured someone would say that.

I have to disagree on this.  We have had only 1 customer ask about
IPv6 and that was 2 years ago, and the guy was a techie on a home
DSL line.

Yet I have just finished going through channels with our feeds to
get an IPv6 adoption plan into place.  One of them - Time Warner
Telecom - I just talked to the network guy in charge of this today.
They are planning on going live 3rd quarter 2008 - in direct response
to the GSA thing.  The guy told me he gets about 1 query a month from
an ISP regarding IPv6 and he's in charge of it for the entire TWT
global network.

TW Telecom is probably very representative of the midlevel transit
providers.  They don't do a lot of government work but it's easier
to CYA by just getting IPv6 running then you don't have to deal
with some saleperson somewhere in the company who gets hamstrung on
a bid that is somehow tied to a GSA contract.  I would imagine that
a lot of the other transit ASs are starting to look into this
issue for the same reasons.  This is the group that ARIN needs to
be pushing.  The retail ISP's who are the next rung down in the
chain are going to need outreach too - but I think it's still too
early for that.  Give it until 2009.  The midlevel transit providers
have plenty of reasons other than GSA contracts that appeal to their
self-interest to get them motivated to get plugged in.

Ted