From dlw+arin at tellme.com Fri Jul 13 14:20:39 2007 From: dlw+arin at tellme.com (David Williamson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:20:39 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? Message-ID: <20070713182039.GJ24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> (This seems like the right list for this question, since it's not about policy...) I don't see any guidance on the web pages that describe the consultation and suggestion process, so it's very unclear to me what expectations to have about how long the process should take. I think it would be useful to provide some sort of expectations for this process. As an alternative, there could at least be some feedback on what's going on. I mostly mention this because I submitted a suggestion almost three months ago, and it's status is still "under review". I've not heard anything about it at all. While I'm not really concerned that there's nothing happening, it would be nice to know that something is happening. I could make a suggestion about this, but.... :) Can someone comment on how the process is handled and what feedback should be expected (and when?) Thanks! -David From marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com Fri Jul 13 14:28:39 2007 From: marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com (Azinger, Marla) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:28:39 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? Message-ID: <454810F09B5AA04E9D78D13A5C39028A023EFC2E@nyrofcs2ke2k01.corp.pvt> I agree. It would be nice if there were at least a 2 week limit. After the 2 weeks they either post the answer or post a realistic date that they believe their analysis will be done and the answer posted. Cheers! Marla -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? (This seems like the right list for this question, since it's not about policy...) I don't see any guidance on the web pages that describe the consultation and suggestion process, so it's very unclear to me what expectations to have about how long the process should take. I think it would be useful to provide some sort of expectations for this process. As an alternative, there could at least be some feedback on what's going on. I mostly mention this because I submitted a suggestion almost three months ago, and it's status is still "under review". I've not heard anything about it at all. While I'm not really concerned that there's nothing happening, it would be nice to know that something is happening. I could make a suggestion about this, but.... :) Can someone comment on how the process is handled and what feedback should be expected (and when?) Thanks! -David _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From heather.skanks at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 15:04:03 2007 From: heather.skanks at gmail.com (heather skanks) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:03 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? In-Reply-To: <454810F09B5AA04E9D78D13A5C39028A023EFC2E@nyrofcs2ke2k01.corp.pvt> References: <454810F09B5AA04E9D78D13A5C39028A023EFC2E@nyrofcs2ke2k01.corp.pvt> Message-ID: <616812070707131204kc03e713y5eec5db38e5f4fa8@mail.gmail.com> It would be nice if new suggestions were posted to either -discuss or -consult within 48 hours or so. That might facilitate unrequested 'consultation' - but as there is not I large number of suggestions, should be manageable. (Do we have to make a suggestion to ask that this be done? or that they change the process? or that they clarify the process?) --Heather On 7/13/07, Azinger, Marla wrote: > > I agree. It would be nice if there were at least a 2 week limit. After > the 2 weeks they either post the answer or post a realistic date that they > believe their analysis will be done and the answer posted. > > Cheers! > Marla > > -----Original Message----- > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of David Williamson > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:21 AM > To: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? > > > (This seems like the right list for this question, since it's not about > policy...) > > I don't see any guidance on the web pages that describe the > consultation and suggestion process, so it's very unclear to me what > expectations to have about how long the process should take. > > I think it would be useful to provide some sort of expectations for > this process. As an alternative, there could at least be some feedback > on what's going on. > > I mostly mention this because I submitted a suggestion almost three > months ago, and it's status is still "under review". I've not heard > anything about it at all. While I'm not really concerned that there's > nothing happening, it would be nice to know that something is > happening. > > I could make a suggestion about this, but.... :) > > Can someone comment on how the process is handled and what feedback > should be expected (and when?) > > Thanks! > > -David > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. ________________________________ From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net on behalf of heather skanks Sent: Fri 7/13/2007 2:04 PM To: Azinger, Marla Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; David Williamson Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? It would be nice if new suggestions were posted to either -discuss or -consult within 48 hours or so. That might facilitate unrequested 'consultation' - but as there is not I large number of suggestions, should be manageable. (Do we have to make a suggestion to ask that this be done? or that they change the process? or that they clarify the process?) --Heather On 7/13/07, Azinger, Marla wrote: I agree. It would be nice if there were at least a 2 week limit. After the 2 weeks they either post the answer or post a realistic date that they believe their analysis will be done and the answer posted. Cheers! Marla -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net ]On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? (This seems like the right list for this question, since it's not about policy...) I don't see any guidance on the web pages that describe the consultation and suggestion process, so it's very unclear to me what expectations to have about how long the process should take. I think it would be useful to provide some sort of expectations for this process. As an alternative, there could at least be some feedback on what's going on. I mostly mention this because I submitted a suggestion almost three months ago, and it's status is still "under review". I've not heard anything about it at all. While I'm not really concerned that there's nothing happening, it would be nice to know that something is happening. I could make a suggestion about this, but.... :) Can someone comment on how the process is handled and what feedback should be expected (and when?) Thanks! -David _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From jcurran at istaff.org Sat Jul 14 08:36:22 2007 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:36:22 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] How long should the suggestion process take? In-Reply-To: <616812070707131204kc03e713y5eec5db38e5f4fa8@mail.gmail.com> References: <454810F09B5AA04E9D78D13A5C39028A023EFC2E@nyrofcs2ke2k01.corp.pvt> <616812070707131204kc03e713y5eec5db38e5f4fa8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The ARIN Board has committed to an open and transparent consultation and suggestion process. Discussing these suggestions for change to the process have now been put on the next Board agenda. /John Chairman, ARIN Board of Trustees At 3:04 PM -0400 7/13/07, heather skanks wrote: >It would be nice if new suggestions were posted to either -discuss or -consult within 48 hours or so. That might facilitate unrequested 'consultation' - but as there is not I large number of suggestions, should be manageable. > >(Do we have to make a suggestion to ask that this be done? or that they change the process? or that they clarify the process?) > > --Heather From dlw+arin at tellme.com Wed Jul 18 11:37:02 2007 From: dlw+arin at tellme.com (David Williamson) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:37:02 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> Hey! I don't know how many of you follow the list of suggestions, but here's the response I got for 2007.15. I had suggested that ARIN's whois should accept CIDR style queries, noting that it's the only RIR that does not. The answer I received is below, but can be summarized as "yes, that's an interesting point, but we're not going to make the relevant changes at this time." There's a phrase about community support as well, which is the trigger for this message. So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) Thanks! -David ----- Forwarded message from Member Services ----- From: Member Services To: dlw+arin at tellme.com Subject: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:24:05 -0400 Dear David, This is in response to your suggestion shown below that was numbered 2007.15 upon receipt of your confirmation. ARIN periodically receives requests to modify WHOIS in various ways, including your request for a CIDR query enhancement. ARIN feels it is important to make WHOIS as accessible and flexible as possible. Requests received to date have not warranted ARIN committing resources for this particular enhancement. However, we agree your request will add value to the Internet community using ARIN WHOIS. As a result, we will add the request to the list of considered future enhancements for WHOIS. When ARIN receives more community interest for this feature or as resources are available, ARIN will schedule this enhancement for incorporation into WHOIS. Thank you for participating in the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process. Please consider your suggestion, 2007.15 now closed. Regards, Raymond A. Plzak President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) ********************************************* 2007.15 Submitted 04-22-2007 17:24:06 Suggestion I've noticed that ARIN is the only one of the RIRs that has a whois server that doesn't accept CIDR style queries. For example: : dlw at corp:575 ; whois -h whois.apnic.net 10.0.0.0/8 % [whois.apnic.net node-1] % Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html inetnum: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 [...] : dlw at corp:576 ; whois -h whois.arin.net 10.0.0.0/8 CIDR queries are not accepted No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! Timeframe immediate ----- End forwarded message ----- From rs at seastrom.com Wed Jul 18 12:16:39 2007 From: rs at seastrom.com (Robert E. Seastrom) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:16:39 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> (David Williamson's message of "Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:37:02 -0700") References: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> Message-ID: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> David Williamson writes: > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > ... > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to accept queries the same way. ---Rob From jhberan at redred.com Wed Jul 18 12:21:41 2007 From: jhberan at redred.com (Joe H. Beran) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:21:41 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> References: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> Message-ID: <469E3E15.5040105@redred.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tony.Radzwon at integratelecom.com Wed Jul 18 12:19:47 2007 From: Tony.Radzwon at integratelecom.com (Radzwon, Tony) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:19:47 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> Message-ID: <06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> I am all for CIDR queries. Tony -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM To: David Williamson Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] David Williamson writes: > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > ... > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to accept queries the same way. ---Rob _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From Scott.Shackelford at cox.com Wed Jul 18 12:23:29 2007 From: Scott.Shackelford at cox.com (Scott.Shackelford at cox.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:23:29 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> References: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> <06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> Message-ID: Ditto. Thanks, Scott Shackelford IP Engineer/IP Administrator Cox Communications Office: 404-269-7312 IM: cypscott I'm the IP guy, NOT the DNS guy. -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Radzwon, Tony Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:20 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom; David Williamson Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am all for CIDR queries. Tony -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM To: David Williamson Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] David Williamson writes: > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > ... > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to accept queries the same way. ---Rob _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From cgucker at onesc.net Wed Jul 18 12:26:39 2007 From: cgucker at onesc.net (Charles Gucker) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:26:39 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <469E3E15.5040105@redred.com> References: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> <469E3E15.5040105@redred.com> Message-ID: Joe, Please read the nicely formatted footer attached to every message on this mailing list: Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Also, I am in full support of being able to do CIDR queries, since the "cost" to determine start block (known) and end block (based off the mask) isn't very costly and converting it to a range query, which the last time I looked is currently supported. Keep in mind, I have not seen, nor have knowledge of the current working code, but I have worked on other projects that did this type of conversion as a regular routine. charles On 7/18/07, Joe H. Beran wrote: > > Please remove me from this list. > > > Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > David Williamson writes: > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > ... > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as > ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to > accept queries the same way. > > ---Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > From sleibrand at internap.com Wed Jul 18 12:33:06 2007 From: sleibrand at internap.com (Scott Leibrand) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:33:06 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> References: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> Message-ID: <469E40C2.9030500@internap.com> At the risk of triggering yet another unsubscribe message, I'll add my support for CIDR whois queries. I am perennially hitting uparrow-backspace-backspace-backspace-enter after my queries fail. -Scott P.S. If you want to unsubscribe, please use http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss to do so. David Williamson wrote: > Hey! > > I don't know how many of you follow the list of suggestions, but here's > the response I got for 2007.15. I had suggested that ARIN's whois > should accept CIDR style queries, noting that it's the only RIR that > does not. > > The answer I received is below, but can be summarized as "yes, that's > an interesting point, but we're not going to make the relevant changes > at this time." There's a phrase about community support as well, which > is the trigger for this message. > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > Thanks! > > -David > > > ----- Forwarded message from Member Services ----- > > From: Member Services > To: dlw+arin at tellme.com > Subject: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15 > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:24:05 -0400 > > Dear David, > > This is in response to your suggestion shown below that was numbered > 2007.15 upon receipt of your confirmation. > > ARIN periodically receives requests to modify WHOIS in various ways, > including your request for a CIDR query enhancement. ARIN feels it is > important to make WHOIS as accessible and flexible as possible. Requests > received to date have not warranted ARIN committing resources for this > particular enhancement. However, we agree your request will add value > to the Internet community using ARIN WHOIS. As a result, we will add the > request to the list of considered future enhancements for WHOIS. When > ARIN receives more community interest for this feature or as resources > are available, ARIN will schedule this enhancement for incorporation > into WHOIS. > > Thank you for participating in the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion > Process. Please consider your suggestion, 2007.15 now closed. > > Regards, > > Raymond A. Plzak > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > > ********************************************* > 2007.15 > Submitted 04-22-2007 17:24:06 > Suggestion > > I've noticed that ARIN is the only one of the RIRs that has a whois > server that doesn't accept CIDR style queries. For example: > > : dlw at corp:575 ; whois -h whois.apnic.net 10.0.0.0/8 % > [whois.apnic.net node-1] % Whois data copyright terms > http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html > > inetnum: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 > [...] > > : dlw at corp:576 ; whois -h whois.arin.net 10.0.0.0/8 > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > Timeframe immediate > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > From woody at pch.net Wed Jul 18 12:33:23 2007 From: woody at pch.net (Bill Woodcock) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> References: <20070718153702.GO24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, David Williamson wrote: > I don't know how many of you follow the list of suggestions, but here's > the response I got for 2007.15. I had suggested that ARIN's whois > should accept CIDR style queries, noting that it's the only RIR that > does not. The answer I received is below, but can be summarized as > "yes, that's an interesting point, but we're not going to make the > relevant changes at this time." Speaking as a member of the community, and not as a board member: Yes! I'd love to see this fixed! -Bill From andrewdillon at tmlp.com Wed Jul 18 12:39:25 2007 From: andrewdillon at tmlp.com (Andrew Dillon) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:39:25 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3EBB9E6752E02749BB22C9BAC85E1DF8016AE8E0@tmlp-mail2.tmlp.com> The addition of CIDR queries would definitely be welcomed. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Scott.Shackelford at cox.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:23 PM To: Tony.Radzwon at integratelecom.com; rs at seastrom.com; dlw+arin at tellme.com Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] [bcc][faked-from][heur][bayes] Ditto. Thanks, Scott Shackelford IP Engineer/IP Administrator Cox Communications Office: 404-269-7312 IM: cypscott I'm the IP guy, NOT the DNS guy. -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Radzwon, Tony Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:20 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom; David Williamson Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am all for CIDR queries. Tony -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM To: David Williamson Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] David Williamson writes: > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > ... > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to accept queries the same way. ---Rob _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From andrew.dul at quark.net Wed Jul 18 13:37:26 2007 From: andrew.dul at quark.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andrew=20Dul?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:37:26 -0800 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> > -------Original Message------- > From: David Williamson > Subject: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Sent: 18 Jul '07 07:37 > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? I also support CIDR queries. It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. Andrew From dlw+arin at tellme.com Wed Jul 18 13:44:36 2007 From: dlw+arin at tellme.com (David Williamson) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:44:36 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> References: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> Message-ID: <20070718174436.GR24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:37:26AM -0800, Andrew Dul wrote: > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: David Williamson > > Subject: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > Sent: 18 Jul '07 07:37 > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? > > I also support CIDR queries. > > It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. I agree, but there's not presently an obvious mechanism. (Care to make a suggestion?) On the original point, it would appear that there's fairly broad support for CIDR whois queries. While I certainly understand the need to find resources for doing the actual work, I think that's the primary limiting factor, not additional community support. Can staff perhaps prioritize this specific whois enhancement appropriately based on this feedback, please? Thanks. -David From CRiling at cisp.com Wed Jul 18 13:47:14 2007 From: CRiling at cisp.com (Chris Riling) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:47:14 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: I too think this would be extremely handy... Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Dul Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:37 PM To: David Williamson; Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > -------Original Message------- > From: David Williamson > Subject: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Sent: 18 Jul '07 07:37 > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? I also support CIDR queries. It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. Andrew _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Name: Chris Riling.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 240 bytes Desc: Chris Riling.vcf URL: From hribnak at nucleus.com Wed Jul 18 13:49:59 2007 From: hribnak at nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:49:59 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> References: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> Message-ID: <003f01c7c964$0f30afb0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> I am for the CIDR queries as well -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Dul Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:37 AM To: David Williamson; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > -------Original Message------- > From: David Williamson > Subject: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Sent: 18 Jul '07 07:37 > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? I also support CIDR queries. It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. Andrew _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From andrew.dul at quark.net Wed Jul 18 13:52:48 2007 From: andrew.dul at quark.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andrew=20Dul?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:52:48 -0800 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: <20070718175248.24176.qmail@hoster908.com> > -------Original Message------- > From: David Williamson > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Sent: 18 Jul '07 09:44 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:37:26AM -0800, Andrew Dul wrote: > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: David Williamson > > > Subject: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > Sent: 18 Jul '07 07:37 > > > > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? > > > > I also support CIDR queries. > > > > It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. > > I agree, but there's not presently an obvious mechanism. (Care to make > a suggestion?) This seems like something like this would be a good candidate for the consultation process. However the problem I see with the consultation process is that for people to participate they must join the consult mail list to be part of the straw poll. It would seem to me that if your email is registered with arin-discuss then you should be able to participate in the straw poll. I know there were probably reasons for limiting the straw-poll to the consult mailing list but that seems a bit restrictive at this moment. Andrew From michael.dillon at bt.com Wed Jul 18 13:58:36 2007 From: michael.dillon at bt.com (michael.dillon at bt.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:58:36 +0100 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> References: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> Message-ID: > It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. > It would be great if there was another way for the community > to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me > too" emails to a list. There is another way. Simply go to this page https://app.arin.net/suggestion/ And enter a "me too" suggestion. Or, better yet, explain what is needed in a more understandable manner so that ARIN staff find it harder to reject the suggestion. --Michael Dillon From kloch at kl.net Wed Jul 18 13:59:10 2007 From: kloch at kl.net (Kevin Loch) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:59:10 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718174436.GR24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> References: <20070718173726.10432.qmail@hoster908.com> <20070718174436.GR24890@shell01.corp.tellme.com> Message-ID: <469E54EE.5030008@kl.net> David Williamson wrote: > On the original point, it would appear that there's fairly broad > support for CIDR whois queries. While I certainly understand the need > to find resources for doing the actual work, I think that's the primary > limiting factor, not additional community support. > > Can staff perhaps prioritize this specific whois enhancement > appropriately based on this feedback, please? > We are talking about just discarding the '/whatever' and treating the base as a regular address query right? That should be a trivial change to the input form processing. - Kevin From Daniel_Alexander at Cable.Comcast.com Wed Jul 18 14:14:39 2007 From: Daniel_Alexander at Cable.Comcast.com (Alexander, Daniel) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:14:39 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718175248.24176.qmail@hoster908.com> References: <20070718175248.24176.qmail@hoster908.com> Message-ID: <997BC128AE961E4A8B880CD7442D9480C2341E@NJCHLEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com> Earlier this year, the AC and ARIN staff worked to put a polling mechanism in place to collect opinion from the ppml. I think this is a great example of how that could be put to use. I would like to request that ARIN staff post a polling question to the ppml for their opinion on the suggestion to support CIDR queries in WHOIS. I think this would provide more tangible feedback rather than everyone hitting reply. It would also provide a clearer picture when trying to gauge priorities and resources. Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Dul Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:53 PM To: David Williamson; Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > -------Original Message------- > From: David Williamson > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Sent: 18 Jul '07 09:44 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:37:26AM -0800, Andrew Dul wrote: > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: David Williamson > > Subject: > [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > Sent: 18 > Jul '07 07:37 > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be > a useful feature? > > > > I also support CIDR queries. > > > > It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. > > I agree, but there's not presently an obvious mechanism. (Care to > make a suggestion?) This seems like something like this would be a good candidate for the consultation process. However the problem I see with the consultation process is that for people to participate they must join the consult mail list to be part of the straw poll. It would seem to me that if your email is registered with arin-discuss then you should be able to participate in the straw poll. I know there were probably reasons for limiting the straw-poll to the consult mailing list but that seems a bit restrictive at this moment. Andrew _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com Wed Jul 18 14:23:14 2007 From: marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com (Azinger, Marla) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:23:14 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: <454810F09B5AA04E9D78D13A5C39028A02A4C6A3@nyrofcs2ke2k01.corp.pvt> I agree, with it all. -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Alexander, Daniel Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15 AM To: Andrew Dul; David Williamson; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Earlier this year, the AC and ARIN staff worked to put a polling mechanism in place to collect opinion from the ppml. I think this is a great example of how that could be put to use. I would like to request that ARIN staff post a polling question to the ppml for their opinion on the suggestion to support CIDR queries in WHOIS. I think this would provide more tangible feedback rather than everyone hitting reply. It would also provide a clearer picture when trying to gauge priorities and resources. Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Dul Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:53 PM To: David Williamson; Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > -------Original Message------- > From: David Williamson > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Sent: 18 Jul '07 09:44 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:37:26AM -0800, Andrew Dul wrote: > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: David Williamson > > Subject: > [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > Sent: 18 > Jul '07 07:37 > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be > a useful feature? > > > > I also support CIDR queries. > > > > It seems to me like a lot of people support this suggestion. It would be great if there was another way for the community to express its opinion without lots of people sending "me too" emails to a list. > > I agree, but there's not presently an obvious mechanism. (Care to > make a suggestion?) This seems like something like this would be a good candidate for the consultation process. However the problem I see with the consultation process is that for people to participate they must join the consult mail list to be part of the straw poll. It would seem to me that if your email is registered with arin-discuss then you should be able to participate in the straw poll. I know there were probably reasons for limiting the straw-poll to the consult mailing list but that seems a bit restrictive at this moment. Andrew _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From gdolley at arpnetworks.com Wed Jul 18 14:30:03 2007 From: gdolley at arpnetworks.com (Garry Dolley) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:30:03 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> References: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> <06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> Message-ID: <20070718183002.GA482@garry-dolleys-computer.local> Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too -- Garry Dolley ARP Networks, Inc. 818-206-0181 Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 WQGK336 On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > I am all for CIDR queries. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > To: David Williamson > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > ... > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as > ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to > accept queries the same way. > > ---Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > From ipgoddess at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 14:40:35 2007 From: ipgoddess at gmail.com (Stacy Taylor) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:40:35 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718183002.GA482@garry-dolleys-computer.local> References: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com> <06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> <20070718183002.GA482@garry-dolleys-computer.local> Message-ID: <1c16a4870707181140y4367f037n83f7c0e76d0bdff0@mail.gmail.com> I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > > > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > > > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as > > ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to > > accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S From jeronimo.diez at nextel.com.mx Wed Jul 18 14:45:57 2007 From: jeronimo.diez at nextel.com.mx (Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:45:57 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] References: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com><06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01 A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com><20070718183002.GA482@garry-dolleys- computer.local> <1c16a4870707181140y4367f037n83f7c0e76d0bdff0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From marshal at birns.net Wed Jul 18 14:47:18 2007 From: marshal at birns.net (Marshal) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:47:18 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net> Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From info at arin.net Wed Jul 18 17:30:49 2007 From: info at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:30:49 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] Community Consultation Next Week Message-ID: <469E8689.6060505@arin.net> Next week ARIN will conduct a community consultation following the guidelines set forth in the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process. This consultation will seek to determine what improvements and enhancements are desired by the community to the ARIN WHOIS service. This is in addition to the previously identified CIDR query. Look for an announcement early next week. Regards, Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From lsanderson at csiweb.com Thu Jul 19 10:19:36 2007 From: lsanderson at csiweb.com (Larry Sanderson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:19:36 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net> Message-ID: <07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local> Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Marshal Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:47 PM To: 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From dmotova at hostican.com Thu Jul 19 10:21:51 2007 From: dmotova at hostican.com (Denis Motova) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:21:51 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net> <07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local> Message-ID: <4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> Please remove me as well... too many emails. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Sanderson [mailto:lsanderson at csiweb.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:20 AM To: Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Marshal Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:47 PM To: 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From lambert at psc.edu Thu Jul 19 10:26:30 2007 From: lambert at psc.edu (Michael Lambert) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:26:30 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net> <07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local> <4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> Message-ID: <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu> I'll assume that the folks who can't manage to unsubscribe themselves from the list can't follow the technical discussion, either. Michael From eve.riboud at domaccess.com Thu Jul 19 10:31:04 2007 From: eve.riboud at domaccess.com (EVE RIBOUD GOMES) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:31:04 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net> <07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local> Message-ID: <006901c7ca11$7006b110$0601a8c0@TOSHIBAPORT> Idem Can I know why I am in copy? regards Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Sanderson" To: "Marshal" ; "Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo" ; "Stacy Taylor" ; Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Marshal Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:47 PM To: 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From chill at italkglobal.com Thu Jul 19 10:40:00 2007 From: chill at italkglobal.com (Chris Hill) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:40:00 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: <13226743BF95544DB7C25DA42C324CD301328304@italkmail.austin.italkglobal.com> Me too chill at italkglobal.com -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Denis Motova Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:22 AM To: 'Larry Sanderson'; 'Marshal'; 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please remove me as well... too many emails. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Sanderson [mailto:lsanderson at csiweb.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:20 AM To: Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Marshal Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:47 PM To: 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From mstotyn at enmax.com Thu Jul 19 10:40:16 2007 From: mstotyn at enmax.com (Stotyn, Mel) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:40:16 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <006901c7ca11$7006b110$0601a8c0@TOSHIBAPORT> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local> <006901c7ca11$7006b110$0601a8c0@TOSHIBAPORT> Message-ID: Good grief! People ... Just follow the instructions at the end of every e-mail that comes from this maillist. _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of EVE RIBOUD GOMES Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:31 AM To: Larry Sanderson; Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Idem Can I know why I am in copy? regards Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Sanderson" To: "Marshal" ; "Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo" ; "Stacy Taylor" ; Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails ************************************************************************ This e-mail message is intended only for the person(s) named above and may contain confidential or privileged information. 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Message-ID: Refer to the bottom of your email please; > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Denis Motova Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:22 AM To: 'Larry Sanderson'; 'Marshal'; 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please remove me as well... too many emails. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Sanderson [mailto:lsanderson at csiweb.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:20 AM To: Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Marshal Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:47 PM To: 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From bk at kola.com Thu Jul 19 10:47:36 2007 From: bk at kola.com (=?utf-8?B?QnJpYW4gS29sYWNp?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:47:36 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><006901c7ca11$7006b110$0601a8c0@TOSHIBAPORT> Message-ID: <787840479-1184856454-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-279535931-@bxe028.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I cannot believe there are so many morons on a list that's SUPPOSED to be for intelligent technical people. I guess not... --- Sent via BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Stotyn, Mel" Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:40:16 To: Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Good grief! People ... Just follow the instructions at the end of every e-mail that comes from this maillist. _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of EVE RIBOUD GOMES Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:31 AM To: Larry Sanderson; Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Idem Can I know why I am in copy? regards Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Sanderson" To: "Marshal" ; "Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo" ; "Stacy Taylor" ; Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails ************************************************************************ This e-mail message is intended only for the person(s) named above and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the person named or have not been authorized by them to access their mail, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, saving, or forwarding. ************************************************************************ _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From jwelsh at acc2go.com Thu Jul 19 10:47:19 2007 From: jwelsh at acc2go.com (Janeen Welsh) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:47:19 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] To unsubscribe... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's very easy to do if this is what you want to do Thank You, Janeen Welsh Access2Go, Inc. Ph: 309-222-2108 Fax: 309-222-2109 "This e-mail, and any files transmitted with is are the property of Access2Go, Inc. and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 309-222-2108 and delete4 this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited." -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Harrity, David Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:41 AM To: Denis Motova; Larry Sanderson; Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] To unsubscribe... Refer to the bottom of your email please; > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Denis Motova Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:22 AM To: 'Larry Sanderson'; 'Marshal'; 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please remove me as well... too many emails. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Sanderson [mailto:lsanderson at csiweb.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:20 AM To: Marshal; Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo; Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe me as well; I can't deal with all these emails -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Marshal Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:47 PM To: 'Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo'; 'Stacy Taylor'; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Diez de Sollano Velasco Aceves, Jeronimo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM To: Stacy Taylor; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Please unsubscribe me of this list... i?m interested in the discussion and proposal evaluation, but can?t this be a web blog instead of this bunch of emails ? Jer?nimo Diez de Sollano -----Mensaje original----- De: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] En nombre de Stacy Taylor Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 18 de julio de 2007 01:41 p.m. Para: arin-discuss at arin.net Asunto: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] I am likewise in favor of CIDR queries. Stacy On 7/18/07, Garry Dolley wrote: > Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too > > -- > Garry Dolley > ARP Networks, Inc. > 818-206-0181 > Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 > WQGK336 > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > > I am all for CIDR queries. > > > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. > > Seastrom > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > > To: David Williamson > > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From > > > the message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might > > > move up the timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > > > ... > > > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch > > as ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect > > sense to accept queries the same way. > > > > ---Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > -- :):) /S _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From michael.dillon at bt.com Thu Jul 19 11:07:38 2007 From: michael.dillon at bt.com (michael.dillon at bt.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:07:38 +0100 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu> Message-ID: > I'll assume that the folks who can't manage to unsubscribe > themselves from the list can't follow the technical > discussion, either. Bad assumption. I decided to try and look at this issue like a normal person would. 1. The emails on this list do *NOT* have a note at the bottom explaining how to unsubscribe. 2. There is a message at the bottom with a URL that seems likely, but when you go to that page it seems to be about *SUBSCRIBING* to the list, not about unsubscribing. ARIN needs to do three things. A) make a web page that talks only about unsubscribing and makes it clear right at the beginning, how to unsubscribe. The user should not need to scroll down in order to unsubscribe. B) Put a message at the bottom of every email telling people to use the URL from A in order to unsubscribe from the list. C) Stop assuming that everyone who deals with ARIN is a techno-geek. It's simply not true and has not been true for several years now. Most people who deal with IP addressing and ARIN relationship, are NORMAL people. Note that C does not imply that people can't follow a technical discussion related to IP addressing. It just means that they are not technical experts in everything Internet-related. --Michael Dillon From mstotyn at enmax.com Thu Jul 19 11:10:45 2007 From: mstotyn at enmax.com (Stotyn, Mel) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:10:45 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [Unsub discussion] In-Reply-To: <469F7AAF.1080604@videotron.net> References: <787840479-1184856454-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-279535931-@bxe028.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <469F7AAF.1080604@videotron.net> Message-ID: It might be a good idea to collect these lame unsub requests and the lame OutOfOffice spam, mine the sender field and put the companies on a list of "Not suitable to buy Internet Services from". Mel Stotyn Senior Operations Specialist ENMAX Envision Inc. mailto:mstotyn at enmax.com Phone: 403 514-3443 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rodrigue [mailto:rodrigst at videotron.net] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:53 AM To: bk at kola.com Cc: Stotyn, Mel; arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Lol! :) This situation happens once in a while... -- SERVICE AFFAIRES Steve Rodrigue +---+-----------+ Tech. Integrateur | > | VIDEOTRON | Reseaux Internet +---+-----------+ 514-380-4667 ************************************************************************ This e-mail message is intended only for the person(s) named above and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the person named or have not been authorized by them to access their mail, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, saving, or forwarding. ************************************************************************ From kirk at xmt3.com Thu Jul 19 11:18:45 2007 From: kirk at xmt3.com (Kirk Adkison) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:18:45 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Message-ID: I appreciate your professionalism it was a breath of fresh air. People do not need to be ridiculed or called names. Thank you again -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of michael.dillon at bt.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:08 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > I'll assume that the folks who can't manage to unsubscribe > themselves from the list can't follow the technical > discussion, either. Bad assumption. I decided to try and look at this issue like a normal person would. 1. The emails on this list do *NOT* have a note at the bottom explaining how to unsubscribe. 2. There is a message at the bottom with a URL that seems likely, but when you go to that page it seems to be about *SUBSCRIBING* to the list, not about unsubscribing. ARIN needs to do three things. A) make a web page that talks only about unsubscribing and makes it clear right at the beginning, how to unsubscribe. The user should not need to scroll down in order to unsubscribe. B) Put a message at the bottom of every email telling people to use the URL from A in order to unsubscribe from the list. C) Stop assuming that everyone who deals with ARIN is a techno-geek. It's simply not true and has not been true for several years now. Most people who deal with IP addressing and ARIN relationship, are NORMAL people. Note that C does not imply that people can't follow a technical discussion related to IP addressing. It just means that they are not technical experts in everything Internet-related. --Michael Dillon _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From KevinDz at tst-us.com Thu Jul 19 11:17:57 2007 From: KevinDz at tst-us.com (Kevin Dziekonski) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:17:57 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <20070718183002.GA482@garry-dolleys-computer.local> References: <86644hznyw.fsf@seastrom.com><06A65E23DC31BD42A7E0E3EBFCA7F28C01A6B7C5@prlmail1.ads.integratelecom.com> <20070718183002.GA482@garry-dolleys-computer.local> Message-ID: <005401c7ca17$fcec1f60$c70014ac@tstwsgazoo> I am for CDIR queries to -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Garry Dolley Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:30 PM To: Radzwon, Tony Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net; David Williamson Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Yep, I'm all for CIDR queries too -- Garry Dolley ARP Networks, Inc. 818-206-0181 Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 WQGK336 On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:19:47AM -0500, Radzwon, Tony wrote: > I am all for CIDR queries. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net > [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:17 AM > To: David Williamson > Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > > > > David Williamson writes: > > > So, how many of you would find this to be a useful feature? From the > > message, it sounds like sufficient community interest might move up the > > timetable for implementation...hence the question. :) > > > > ... > > > > CIDR queries are not accepted > > > > No match found for 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > CIDR queries really should work. Thanks! > > I would welcome having the ability to make a CIDR query. Inasmuch as > ARIN hands out blocks of addresses that way, it makes perfect sense to > accept queries the same way. > > ---Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > _______________________________________________ > This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List > (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). > Manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss > > !DSPAM:469e3e2727298567820304! > _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From korey at webstream.net Thu Jul 19 11:21:50 2007 From: korey at webstream.net (Korey Verlsteffen) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:21:50 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] References: Message-ID: <49db01c7ca18$8922bed0$4c01a8c0@kv> >Manage your mailing list subscription at: >http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss >2. There is a message at the bottom with a URL that seems likely, but >when you go to that page it seems to be about *SUBSCRIBING* to the list, >not about unsubscribing. The unsubscribe option is there, as it's always been. Try scrolling down to the bottom of the page. Back to the subject at hand, I'm all for CDIR queries. From dave at mvn.net Thu Jul 19 11:31:44 2007 From: dave at mvn.net (David E. Smith) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:31:44 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu> Message-ID: <469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> michael.dillon at bt.com wrote: > C) Stop assuming that everyone who deals with ARIN is a techno-geek. > It's simply not true and has not been true for several years now. Most > people who deal with IP addressing and ARIN relationship, are NORMAL > people. Did you just imply that we're not normal? Them's fightin' words. :) Honestly, the link says "manage your mailing list subscription," which is about as clear and unambiguous as you can get without detailing every little thing you can possibly do. And we don't really want a signature that says "Visit (url here) to subscribe, unsubscribe, select whether you want to receive mails in real-time or in a daily digest, change your list password, or change your email address by rapidly unsubscribing one address followed by subscribing another one." I'm sure I left out a few features but, well, you get the idea. (oh yeah, I also think ARIN WHOIS supporting CIDR lookups would be swell) David Smith MVN.net From hribnak at nucleus.com Thu Jul 19 11:34:43 2007 From: hribnak at nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:34:43 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu> <469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> Message-ID: <001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> This whole thing is about common sense. All one has to do is read and follow what it says. Its a pretty simple concept, really it is.. Jim -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:32 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] michael.dillon at bt.com wrote: > C) Stop assuming that everyone who deals with ARIN is a techno-geek. > It's simply not true and has not been true for several years now. Most > people who deal with IP addressing and ARIN relationship, are NORMAL > people. Did you just imply that we're not normal? Them's fightin' words. :) Honestly, the link says "manage your mailing list subscription," which is about as clear and unambiguous as you can get without detailing every little thing you can possibly do. And we don't really want a signature that says "Visit (url here) to subscribe, unsubscribe, select whether you want to receive mails in real-time or in a daily digest, change your list password, or change your email address by rapidly unsubscribing one address followed by subscribing another one." I'm sure I left out a few features but, well, you get the idea. (oh yeah, I also think ARIN WHOIS supporting CIDR lookups would be swell) David Smith MVN.net _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From mark.urbach at pnpt.com Thu Jul 19 11:36:07 2007 From: mark.urbach at pnpt.com (Mark Urbach) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:36:07 -0500 Subject: [arin-discuss] unsubscribe Message-ID: <9C745BE87BAFFB45BAA4ED02A3C25DEF0319091D@exchange07.pnpt.local> unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Dave at FixTheNet.com Thu Jul 19 12:34:49 2007 From: Dave at FixTheNet.com (Dave Hendrie) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:34:49 -0700 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu><469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> <001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> Message-ID: <0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office> Unsubscribe please -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Jim Hribnak Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:35 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] This whole thing is about common sense. All one has to do is read and follow what it says. Its a pretty simple concept, really it is.. Jim -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:32 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] michael.dillon at bt.com wrote: > C) Stop assuming that everyone who deals with ARIN is a techno-geek. > It's simply not true and has not been true for several years now. Most > people who deal with IP addressing and ARIN relationship, are NORMAL > people. Did you just imply that we're not normal? Them's fightin' words. :) Honestly, the link says "manage your mailing list subscription," which is about as clear and unambiguous as you can get without detailing every little thing you can possibly do. And we don't really want a signature that says "Visit (url here) to subscribe, unsubscribe, select whether you want to receive mails in real-time or in a daily digest, change your list password, or change your email address by rapidly unsubscribing one address followed by subscribing another one." I'm sure I left out a few features but, well, you get the idea. (oh yeah, I also think ARIN WHOIS supporting CIDR lookups would be swell) David Smith MVN.net _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From hribnak at nucleus.com Thu Jul 19 12:45:36 2007 From: hribnak at nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:45:36 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu><469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> <001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> <0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office> Message-ID: <006b01c7ca24$3b6ef7b0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> Are people now just doing this on purpose????? This is what the 2nd or 3rd since someone said click on the link below? Simply amazing.. Ji -----Original Message----- From: Dave Hendrie [mailto:Dave at FixTheNet.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:35 AM To: Jim Hribnak; arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: RE: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] Unsubscribe please -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Jim Hribnak Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:35 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] This whole thing is about common sense. All one has to do is read and follow what it says. Its a pretty simple concept, really it is.. Jim -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:32 AM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] michael.dillon at bt.com wrote: > C) Stop assuming that everyone who deals with ARIN is a techno-geek. > It's simply not true and has not been true for several years now. Most > people who deal with IP addressing and ARIN relationship, are NORMAL > people. Did you just imply that we're not normal? Them's fightin' words. :) Honestly, the link says "manage your mailing list subscription," which is about as clear and unambiguous as you can get without detailing every little thing you can possibly do. And we don't really want a signature that says "Visit (url here) to subscribe, unsubscribe, select whether you want to receive mails in real-time or in a daily digest, change your list password, or change your email address by rapidly unsubscribing one address followed by subscribing another one." I'm sure I left out a few features but, well, you get the idea. (oh yeah, I also think ARIN WHOIS supporting CIDR lookups would be swell) David Smith MVN.net _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From info at arin.net Thu Jul 19 14:00:53 2007 From: info at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:00:53 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Discussion Mailing List Message-ID: <469FA6D5.40807@arin.net> The ARIN Discussion Mailing List (arin-discuss at arin.net) is open to ARIN Members only. It provides a forum for the member community to discuss ARIN-specific issues such as fee structures and internal policies. We are currently evaluating ways to make the unsubscribe process and instructions easier to understand and follow. If you have any suggestions, please submit them to info at arin.net and we will take them into consideration. For those wishing to unsubscribe from the ARIN Discussion Mailing List: 1. Visit http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss. 2. Enter your subscribed e-mail account in the unsubscribe form at the bottom. 3. Click the Unsubscribe or edit options button. 4. Click the Unsubscribe button on the following page. 5. A confirmation message will be e-mailed to you. You must reply to the message or click the URL in the message to complete the removal process. Please note that we also have a daily digest option available. If you turn digest mode on, you'll get posts bundled together (usually one per day but possibly more on busy lists), instead of singly when they're sent. To turn the digest mode on, follow steps 1-3 above. Then enter your mailing list password and set digest mode to ?On? in the Subscription Options section. If you encounter any problems with the above directions, please e-mail info at arin.net. Regards, Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) From michael.c.loevner at verizon.com Thu Jul 19 14:39:29 2007 From: michael.c.loevner at verizon.com (michael.c.loevner at verizon.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:39:29 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> Message-ID: Just wondering, what do we want CIDR queries to do? Match the exact CIDR block that we enter, or show all networks that are within the CIDR block? Does ARIN need to look at adding a series of additional flags that can be used along with CIDR queries to get the intended results? We really need a more specific solution then, "Hey, I like CIDR queries." This route may bring us the ability to enter CIDR queries, but we may not get the increased functionality we are looking for. For example, I personally would like to see the following (not picking on AT&T, just an easy example to use): 1. Entering "12.0.0.0/8" returns only the record for that exact CIDR block, if 12.0.0.0/9 were entered in this fashion, it would provide no results. 2. Entering ">!12.0.0.0/8" returns all records for 12.0.0.0/8 and all network within subdelegated from 12.0.0.0/8. This query returns far too many records to be of much use (to me, and I think it crashed my browser) and this can already be done with nethandles, but my next example currently cannot. 3. Entering ">!12.111.0.0/16" returns all networks falling within the 12.111.0.0/16 CIDR boundary. Since 12.111.0.0/16 is not a currently registered address block, this adds a new level of functionality that would be appreciated, and provides me with a list of a couple hundred records rather than the unmanageable number that comes up from querying the whole block. I'd like for members of the list not in the process of unsubscribing to add to this so that we can get an idea of what we want from CIDR queries, and the practical applications of having them. -Mike From michael.dillon at bt.com Thu Jul 19 18:09:54 2007 From: michael.dillon at bt.com (michael.dillon at bt.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:09:54 +0100 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu> <469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net> Message-ID: > Honestly, the link says "manage your mailing list > subscription," which is about as clear and unambiguous as you > can get without detailing every little thing you can possibly > do. I disagree. Here is an example of what could be written in plain English, but it would need a working URL to back it up. _______________________________________________ You are subscribed to the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe here http://lists.arin.net/unsubscribe Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Of course, it would be even better if URL contained the message-id so that people don't have to try and figure out which address is subscribed. Let the webapp do that. At one point, due to acquistions and domain name changes, I had 3 email addresses being forwarded to my corporate in-box. --Michael Dillon From michael.dillon at bt.com Thu Jul 19 18:11:54 2007 From: michael.dillon at bt.com (michael.dillon at bt.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:11:54 +0100 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] In-Reply-To: <006b01c7ca24$3b6ef7b0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu><469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net><001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com><0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office> <006b01c7ca24$3b6ef7b0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> Message-ID: > Are people now just doing this on purpose????? This is what > the 2nd or 3rd since someone said click on the link below? > > Simply amazing.. Not amazing at all. It is the logical outcome of doing things in a convoluted manner instead of clearly, logically and described in plain English. --Michael Dillon From jKnowles at Cogentco.com Thu Jul 19 18:13:51 2007 From: jKnowles at Cogentco.com (Knowles, John) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:13:51 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] [info@arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu><469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net><001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com><0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office><006b01c7ca24$3b6ef7b0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> Message-ID: <96FACEA5D768FA43953CDC0DFEF306C603263659@hhcsrv-mx01.ms.cogentco.com> This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss *everything above this and below this line is clearly in plan English* From mstotyn at enmax.com Thu Jul 19 18:18:52 2007 From: mstotyn at enmax.com (Stotyn, Mel) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:18:52 -0600 Subject: [arin-discuss] [Unsubscribe discussion] In-Reply-To: References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu><469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net><001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com><0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office><006b01c7ca24$3b6ef7b0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, not everyone in the ARIN domain speaks or reads "plain English" as a first language, so it can be very challenging to write something that everyone will recognize as "plain English". However, the suggestion to let the web server "figure it out" would be great. I have seen many e-mails that say: "to unsubscribe click here, or copy and paste the following URL into your Web Browser" Mel Stotyn Senior Operations Specialist ENMAX Envision Inc. mailto:mstotyn at enmax.com Phone: 403 514-3443 -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of michael.dillon at bt.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:12 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Are people now just doing this on purpose????? This is what the 2nd or > 3rd since someone said click on the link below? > > Simply amazing.. Not amazing at all. It is the logical outcome of doing things in a convoluted manner instead of clearly, logically and described in plain English. --Michael Dillon _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss ************************************************************************ This e-mail message is intended only for the person(s) named above and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the person named or have not been authorized by them to access their mail, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, saving, or forwarding. ************************************************************************ From bk at kola.com Thu Jul 19 19:58:25 2007 From: bk at kola.com (=?utf-8?B?QnJpYW4gS29sYWNp?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:58:25 +0000 Subject: [arin-discuss] [Unsubscribe discussion] In-Reply-To: References: <20070718184718.8949A42FE04@mail.birns.net><07FBE04DDABA1541800F7CCADF6A56EEC51981@padebze0303.CSIDMZ.local><4A93A11FB657437FA38F86B5EF57C82B@lnxcodePC> <46612D4E-DCB0-476C-AFAD-D5E02DFADFA0@psc.edu><469F83E0.5010105@mvn.net><001a01c7ca1a$55a92f60$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com><0AAB7F4BFF91174784E508BD3C742019223252@FNSEXCH.fns.office><006b01c7ca24$3b6ef7b0$1714a8c0@exchange.nucleus.com> Message-ID: <113256281-1184889503-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1621918206-@bxe028.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Even if you had a big bold link that would do the unsubscribe in one step I guarantee that the same idiots would still broadcast the same useless email out to the list asking someone to unsubscribe them. They just can't help it. The more technology progresses the more stupid people get. Its just a fact of life. --- Sent via BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Stotyn, Mel" Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:18:52 To: Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [Unsubscribe discussion] Unfortunately, not everyone in the ARIN domain speaks or reads "plain English" as a first language, so it can be very challenging to write something that everyone will recognize as "plain English". However, the suggestion to let the web server "figure it out" would be great. I have seen many e-mails that say: "to unsubscribe click here, or copy and paste the following URL into your Web Browser" Mel Stotyn Senior Operations Specialist ENMAX Envision Inc. mailto:mstotyn at enmax.com Phone: 403 514-3443 -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of michael.dillon at bt.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:12 PM To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] [info at arin.net: ACSP Suggestion 2007.15] > Are people now just doing this on purpose????? This is what the 2nd or > 3rd since someone said click on the link below? > > Simply amazing.. Not amazing at all. It is the logical outcome of doing things in a convoluted manner instead of clearly, logically and described in plain English. --Michael Dillon _______________________________________________ This message sent to you through the ARIN Discuss Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). 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Manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss From info at arin.net Mon Jul 23 11:04:54 2007 From: info at arin.net (Member Services) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:04:54 -0400 Subject: [arin-discuss] Call for Consultation: ARIN WHOIS Directory Services Message-ID: <46A4C396.3040006@arin.net> ARIN received a suggestion to allow CIDR style queries to the ARIN WHOIS directory service. In addition to this enhancement, ARIN would like to explore other possible modifications that the community desires. ARIN requests that you provide specific feedback as to what additional WHOIS enhancements would benefit you and why they are needed. Please submit your suggestions and feedback to the consult at arin.net. You can subscribe to the arin-consult mailing list at http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/consult. Discussion on consult at arin.net will close at noon ET 27 July. A poll on the topic will be conducted beginning Tuesday, 31 July. Only subscribers on the consult at arin.net list when the poll opens will be eligible to participate. Poll results will be publicly available and will be used by the ARIN President to help determine what course of action, if any, ARIN should take regarding the subject. The ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process documentation is available at: http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/acsp.html We welcome community-wide participation. Please address any process questions to info at arin.net. Regards, Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)