guideline for name-based web hosting justification (fwd)
Kim Scarborough
kjs at enteract.com
Wed Sep 13 12:28:26 EDT 2000
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I sent this yesterday, but it never went through. I'll try again. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:08:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Kim Scarborough <kjs at enteract.com> To: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: guideline for name-based web hosting justification > Cool! Now we all know how to do name based hosting... er, wait... what > about all those HTTP/1.0 browsers!? You don't think they exist any > more? Check this out. In fairness I sampled all my virtual hosts off of > one server from a selective time period. All my logs files are in the > www.domain.com format. Here are my commands and results: > > webserver3: {17} % grep 'HTTP/1.1' www.*.com | wc -l > 400441 > webserver3: {18} % grep 'HTTP/1.0' www.*.com | wc -l > 375412 > > 48.4% of the browsers out there that accessed my customers' sites used > HTTP/1.0. For the uninitiated the 1.0 version of the HTTP protocol does > NOT support name based hosting. > > Can I tell all my customers to call you when their online business drops > by almost 50%. Wait a minute. When you posted that, I was really surprised. I looked through my server logs and got similar percentages. Look at this: /weblogs> grep 'HTTP/1.1' access.log |wc -l 485 /weblogs> grep 'HTTP/1.0' access.log |wc -l 449 But guess what. That's a name-based site. It shares an IP with several sites I host. So obviously, that's not an accurate way to check if people will load the site--nearly half of this site's hits are from 1.0 requests, and yet it manages to get the site fine. I'm not sure how this works--perhaps the browsers are misidentifying the request?--but I can assure you, it does. I work for an ISP that has hundreds of name-based sites. We haven't got any complaints from any of our customers about *anybody* not being able to load their sites in over a year. Saying that 50% of the people out there can't view name-based sites is just absurd. In fact, let's dig a little deeper. Netscape 2.0 and above and IE 3 and above support name-based hosts. So, since IE 3 reports itself as Mozilla 2, IE 4 reports itself as Mozilla 3, etc., let's try this (on my main, IP-based site this time): /weblogs> egrep \(Mozilla/5\|Mozilla/4\|Mozilla/3\|Mozilla/2\) combined.log |wc -l 74210 /weblogs> egrep -v \(Mozilla/5\|Mozilla/4\|Mozilla/3\|Mozilla/2\) combined.log |wc -l 6456 So now we're down to 8%. But even that overstates the number of browsers that can't view name-based sites, because the second number includes search bots, less-used browsers like Lynx and Opera, and command-line fetchers like fetch and wget--all of which also support name-based hosts. I can prune it further upon request. But I would guess it's a fair assumption that just about the only browsers in use by almost anybody that can't get to name-based sites are stray copies of Netscape 1.x. So let's look for that: /weblogs> grep Mozilla/1 combined.log | wc -l 79 0.1% of all my hits this month. So while y'all have a point about the bandwidth accounting, you're on pretty thin ice when talking about browser incompatability.
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