[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Password Security for ARIN Online Accounts

Heather Schiller has at google.com
Tue Feb 16 16:30:12 EST 2021


2FA like this? https://www.arin.net/reference/materials/security/twofactor/



On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 2:54 PM Matt Harris <matt at netfire.net> wrote:

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> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 8:11 AM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>> > Since October 2020, the ARIN Online system has been subject to a series
>> of dictionary-based password guessing attacks. Because of the protective
>> measures currently in place, some customer accounts were locked during
>> these attacks.  ARIN staff has been heavily engaged in mitigating these
>> attacks, and we are seeking community feedback on potential steps ARIN can
>> take to reduce the risk of future attacks and to help customers ensure they
>> are using strong passwords. Password dictionary guessing attacks continue
>> to be a problem in the industry, and this effort should help reduce the
>> extent of previously exposed passwords for our ARIN Online user base.
>> >
>> > Password Check Proposal
>> >
>> > To help ARIN customers make sure they aren’t using a password that has
>> been exposed and shared publicly online, when someone updates their
>> password or creates a user account in ARIN Online, it is proposed that ARIN
>> should check the database "haveibeenpwned (https://haveibeenpwned.com)"
>> to see if they are trying to use a password that has been compromised. ARIN
>> will not send the password, but rather we encrypt the password and send
>> part of the encrypted password to the Have I been Pwned (HIBP) Service (
>> https://haveibeenpwned.com/API/v3#PwnedPasswords) to see if it matches a
>> compromised password.  Actual passwords are never sent or used in any
>> query, nor is your user ID or email shared as part of this check.
>>
>>
>> NIST Special Publication 800-63 revision 3 explains how to manage
>> memorized secrets like passwords in a secure manner. This includes
>> checking a database of known compromised passwords (not an external
>> per-password service) and disallowing the use of passwords which
>> appear in that database. I strongly recommend implementing it rather
>> than trying to devise your own criteria. When 800-63 is properly
>> implemented, external password-guessing attacks are effectively
>> useless.
>>
>
> I strongly agree here. No sense in re-inventing the wheel as far as
> password security.
>
> That said, I would also go further and say that serious consideration
> should be given to requiring 2fa for any account that has direct control of
> resources such as IPv4, IPv6, and ASN resources.
>
> What would the primary barriers be to enforcing such a policy? Many other
> organizations and businesses already have done so for user accounts where
> the ultimate value (and danger) of account compromise is in many cases even
> much lower than the value and potential danger associated with the
> compromise of an ARIN account which holds control of resources.
>
> Multi-factor authentication is the way the world is headed, and I suspect
> that ARIN will be considering such a policy in the number 5 years
> regardless, given the current security climate. So why not get the jump on
> it and start talking/thinking about this now?
>
> - Matt
>
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