[ARIN-consult] [ARIN-Suggestions] Response to Suggestion 2015.9: CONVERT IPV4 COUNTDOWN TO SCIENTIFIC NOTATION

[Hannigan, Martin]

A complete representation of every _single address in ARIN’s possession at all times would be perfectly reasonable to request and to expect. I prefer David’s notation, and /24’s would be perfectly fine and enable most less-technical people to easily understand. We are out.

Transparency, anyone?

Best,

-M<


On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com<mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:

Yeah, just replace the home page /8 equivalents badge with that table, and I think everyone would be happy.

-Scott

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:42 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com<mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com>> wrote:
Apologies for top-posting, but isn't the listing of /23s and /24s at

https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_countdown.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.arin.net_resources_request_ipv4-5Fcountdown.html&d=AwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=XDN_BIPGnpb6V0w5M9FADw&m=g5GtEXfnAWJ2LSbkoCrMXNgRkMKht9qCGd-76nozguo&s=KfMIG3lYyCPB5WVxUCaC2yga_gusYlfZGfiOf1Nv2dg&e=>

a good enough counter?

rgds,

McTim


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:55 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu<mailto:farmer at umn.edu>> wrote:
On 7/6/15 16:51 , ARIN wrote:
ARIN has issued its response to ACSP Suggestion 2015.9. The suggestion
and response text are provided below. This suggestion is now closed and
is available at:

https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2015-9.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.arin.net_participate_acsp_suggestions_2015-2D9.html&d=AwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=XDN_BIPGnpb6V0w5M9FADw&m=g5GtEXfnAWJ2LSbkoCrMXNgRkMKht9qCGd-76nozguo&s=svCGW9NPAtA_jSYWv_ArhkXghYJFce8H7tER3iI71mc&e=>

Regards,

Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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Suggestion: *

Value to Community: As the available IPv4 free pool becomes
progressively more infinitesimal, the legibility of the tiny fraction of
a /8 remaining will be much better in scientific notation. For example,
today we are at 0.00847. 8.47E-3 is a bit easier to read. As the decimal
moves farther to the left, the effect will be more pronounced.
This is semi-tongue in cheek, but I couldn't resist. The reality is I
don't expect the counter to be relevant long enough for this suggestion
to get implemented. It's time to recognize that IPv4 is over and turn
our focus to IPv6 deployment.

*Response:*

Thank you for your suggestion (2015-9) on the topic of changing how ARIN
displays the last remaining IPv4 free pool inventory. Although this type
of notation could be helpful to some, we have received only one
suggestion (from you) to make this change. We agree with your statement
that indicates the IPv4 free pool may deplete sooner than we could
prioritize this suggestion for implementation. For that reason, we are
closing this suggestion without taking further action.
Thank you for using the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process.

While I agree with the response given to the specific suggestion of using scientific notation, it may be useful to consider part of the value statement more as problem statement.  As the available IPv4 free pool becomes progressively more infinitesimal, representing the available free pool as /8 equivalents will become more and more problematic.

The primary point being that an accurate representation of the free pool inventory will be useful even if it is in fact zero, however usefulness of the current representation, based on a /8, is degrading and almost useless at this point.

Given that the free pool is currently slightly more than 500 /24s, and not likely to exceed more than a couple thousand /24s for the foreseeable future, I would recommend changing the representation from /8 to /24 equivalents.  This would probably be forever, but if somehow the inventory made it above say 20 or 30 thousand /24s then maybe the representation could be increased to /16 equivalents or beyond as appropriate.

If necessary I can submit this as a new suggestions.

Thanks


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